doorways rank lower than linking page

[flory]

Hello!

I've got the following problem:

I run a site A with several "clean" doorways (/keyword.htm).
On several of my other sites I put a link to site A, containing the keyword in the link text.

<a href="http://..."> keyword </a>

(In many cases) the result is that google ranks these other domains way better than site A.

Why doesn't site A show up above all my other sites?
All the keywords are relevant for site A - not for any of the other sites!

florian

[Brett_Tabke]

Maybe because pagerank/links/link text isn't all it used to be?

[flory]

obviously...

but isn't it strange, that pages rank high, where a certain keyword appears within a link only once on the whole site (which is totally off-topic for this keyword, by the way)?

shouldn't a page with this keyword being used several times in the visible text (no spamming!), images, alt-tags, filenames, etc... rank higher? i am talking about absolutly relevant keywords!

What's wrong with Google?

I mean, this is kind of spamming what I am doing, though I really don't want to - because I get a lot of irrelevant pages on top positions!
This doesn't help anyone, not me, not Google, not the users...

florian

[instand1]

flory,
I observed the same last year.
I think it is Google's answer to the Google bomb.
(If you point the finger on someone, three fingers point back to you.)
This effect is going to disappear, once there are more links with same or similar anchor-text from various other sites.

In this update I found that for one of my customers for a specific keyword combination the yahoo directory page and the dmoz directory page with this keyword combination (used in the description for his entry in dmoz and yahoo) showed up way ahead of his own site.

Two possible reasons for this:
a) the one keyword in dmoz and in yahoo is in plural, but on the site it is singular.
b) the dmoz entry was included in dmoz recently and is not yet showing up in backlinks of the site.

a) can be changed easily.
b) let us wait and see: probably even such important links like those from dmoz and yahoo are not enough to "switch of the anti-google-bomb backfire".

[amazed]

I think it is possible that the category URLs of directories are taken into account...
just an impression....

[instand1]

amazed:
In my case the pages with URL of the
category URLs of directories
were not always ahead of the site listed with the specific keyword combinations.
But it's more likely when on the site described by the directory the specific keyword combination is not well optimized (not in TITLE, not in anchor text from other pages on the site, etc.)