Can a name affect your ranking

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Can a name affect your ranking

havoc

8:31 am on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Basically i was trying to ask if a Name can affect your listing . As the story went, for over a year and a half a friend of mine has been trying to get onto google without success and the only thing i could think of if he broke one of the google rules. i checked and didn't see anything majorly wrong with the site. The only thing i could think of is that he has the name "virgin" in the name of the site and the company name (not an adult site). Could this affect his chances of being listed.

thanks

Brett_Tabke

1:21 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

That would not effect his ability to get indexed.

AthlonInside

1:49 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Virgin? :)

SEO practioner

1:52 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

"That would not effect his ability to get indexed"

I fully agree

mosley700

2:00 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't particularly fancy virgins. They can be a pain. If I were Google, I'd definately be handing out penalties for use of such a foul term.

borisbaloney

2:05 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

>> (not an adult site)

If you hadn't mentioned that, you would have had people lining up for you to sticky them the URL and let them "investigate the problem". ;)

takagi

2:39 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hi havoc, I replied earlier to another thread started by you containing the full url of your freind's site. Maybe the moderators removed for that reason (posting a URL is against the TOS). Anyway, when using AllTheWeb, AltaVista, Google and Inktomi, no inbound links are found to this site. Maybe there are some links, but none of these search engines could find one.

rogerd

2:46 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Havoc, this doesn't seem to have affected PR7 pages at Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Blue, and other parts of the Virgin empire. (Despite some heavy redirection going on when one accesses some of these sites.)

PatrickDeese

3:45 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

"virgin" as in virginia?

Indexing has everything to do with content, site architecture, and incoming links (and the anchor text they use) and very little to do with the domain name (except in the cases of the domain name using your target keyword).

I would take a hard look at the website and make sure that there isn't any silliness like a frameset with a noframes tag that reads "<body></body>" or even worse: "<p>your browser doesn't support frames</p>"

There are a myriad of more likely reasons for not being indexed properly.

netnerd

4:05 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I don't particularly fancy virgins. They can be a pain. If I were Google, I'd definately be handing out penalties for use of such a foul term.

I doubt that Richard Branson would agree with that!

victor

4:16 pm on Jun 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I doubt it matters, a Google for
inurl:virgin
returns 11.5 million results, so the word is in common use.

A google for
virgin
returns a lot of top 10 positions for URLs that contain the word virgin

doubt that Richard Branson would agree with that!

True. But who would want to fly with an airline that doesn't go all the way? :)

havoc

5:25 am on Jun 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

right thanks guys!, yes my last message violated the TOS im sorry! :( , its bizzarre why he cant get listed . I checked the site (no frames) and i dont see why he wouldnt get listed . i might have another look i guess

natural

7:36 am on Jun 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

if he has no inbound links, from other sites that are indexed in google, and has simply submitted to google manually, then he very well could be in a que awaiting inclussion. that's the worst way to go.

try getting some inbound links to the site, with decent PR (over pr4), and chances are freshdeepbot[TM] will pick it up for a couple of days, then it will get included in the next index.

could be that whoever had the domain name before him was permanentl banned from google, too, i would imagine. in which case you would need to contact google, find out if that's the case, then prove to them that your friend is the new site owner, and it domain wasn't his when it got banned...in which case your friend could be in the next index also.

i dunno.

takagi

9:16 am on Jun 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

.. and i dont see why he wouldnt get listed

Google won't index without inbound links. It's like saying, we have a nice new island, good roads, nice parking, cheap gasoline, but hey, no traffic. We double-checked the roads, every thing looks OK. And yes, there is not even a single sign pointing to our beautiful resort and all the maps still don't show this new island in the lake. But where is the traffic?

Get some links, and Google at least add the URL of this site to the index. If there is no robots.txt or similar meta tag stopping the bots, it will even spider the home page and add it to the index. If the links are OK, Google will also index the rest.

PatrickDeese

3:04 pm on Jun 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

I saw this site (got stickied the URL). The indexing problems have nothing to do with the domain name, and everything to do with:

a) no detectable inbound links (neither in google nor ATW)

b) a huge blocks of javascript that should have been external and referenced as a relative link.

c) not even basic optimization (no alt tags, poorly chosen title tags, etc).

d) bad HTML code (links to a graphic file as "file:///C¦/WINDOWS/Desktop/" instead of referencing the server).

e) as far as directories are concerned, the site has a "coming soon" section, so that will block directory submissions.

This is what I detected in a cursory glance - they may be more silliness, but I was too lazy to look, this was more than enough to explain the problem.