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How often after a title change will it show in google?

Changed my page title, how many weeks?

         

benflux

2:39 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Any ideas? - Sorry for the newbie type question!

Ben.

Jacqwo

2:43 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't think anyone has any clear idea to be honest. I would aim for up to 3 months, give and take a few :)

liamgt

2:58 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ben,

If your site is being crawled by freshbot it could be in the index in as little as one or two days. If not then it depend when you changed the title in relation to being crawled by deepbot and the next updaye.

liam

pixel_juice

2:59 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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There really is no answer to your question benflux. It could be 48 hours, a week, a month, 3 months. Or it might not ;)

AthlonInside

3:00 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If fresh bot found it, that it can happens in just 2-3 days.

benflux

3:00 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Presume the only way to know if you are being crawled by freshbot is by looking at your server logs - which I can't do :-(?

Ben.

takagi

3:19 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Presume the only way to know if you are being crawled by freshbot is by looking at your server logs - which I can't do :-(?

Even if freshbot does spider your site, there is no guarantee that the date will be printed next to the URL.

You can still do a few things if you don't have access to the logs (apart from changing the title):
1. put the date in the page (cgi-script, php, etc)
2. use the 'archived copy' function of comet Web search (see cached page date? [webmasterworld.com] thread). This will show the date of Google's cache.

strategies

3:32 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I can see from my logs that hungry freshbots are crawling my site about every two days for the past two weeks but no new pages are showing up in google. Is this typical these days?

benflux

3:54 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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So if my archived copy is showing as June 2nd - I could be getting a quickish update?

annej

5:14 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A new page title can go in and out. Freshbot picks it up, it shows for a few days and then it's gone, later freshbot may pick it up again.

It all seems much slower since this strange update we just had.

The Subtle Knife

5:19 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I don't think anyone has any clear idea to be honest. I would aim for up to 3 months, give and take a few :)

If anyone had a clear idea about anything here, I'd
be pretty much amazed.. !

Jacqwo

9:01 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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You just made my day! Here I was beginning to think I was the only one to be be swimming in a cloud of fuzziness!

Abigail

9:08 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've got one that's been changing from the old title to the new title and back and forth every few days or so for well over a month now - come to think of it, going on 2 months now.

sleazylou

9:14 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've been waiting since the 12th of April for some title tags to change :( Freshbot regularly visits my index page but doesn't go any deeper. Of course the new titles are deeper :)

Graeme

Mozart

9:35 pm on Jun 6, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Ben:

There is no guarantee when or even if your title change will ever show up... but here a few possibilities.

Normally a page first gets crawled by whats called freshbot (a pioneer type). He puts it into the index, but only for a few days, then it drops out again. If your site is important enough frshbot may come back soon and index it again, so it'll show up in the index again for a few days.

Normally about once every month another bot, deepbot comes around. When deepbot indexes your page it will not drop out of the index again (unless you do bad things). Now title changes have a problem. This is what happens.

Normally deepbot page is older and remains in the index, freshbot pages are newer, but drop out quickly. So a title change is shown for a few days and then gone again. That'll happen a few times until deepbot has been there and indexes the new page. As I said, that happens normally about once a month.

The word normally unfortunately at the moment is your main problem. Because for the last two months or so things are not normal... And therefore you may have to wait another month before the title changes become permanent.

Also, the previous behaviour of freshbots seems to have changed, so I am for some pages in the same boat as you, however they don't want to get into the index.

Wait a month! Hope that helps!

John_Creed

4:05 am on Jun 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If your homepage is visited regularly by freshbot (and the page you change the title on is your homepage) than you can expect your new title to appear in the index in anywhere from 1-7 days.

I've been experimenting with this lately. I recently added a new phrase in my title and as expected it showed up in the serps 2 days later. My site now comes up #1 for the new phrase.

I modified the title again yesterday. This time to a -very- competitive phrase that is closely related to my site.

Once freshbot picks it up...I'm interested in seeing how high in the serps I can rank for this new phrase.

Google might be having problems, but If I can manipulate freshbot it will be nice to get a temporary boast for a bunch of different keywords/phrases.