No Search Engine Rankings

Want To Gain Better Rankings

[entrap]

I have a site that I have optimized to gain better search engine placements on Google as well as other search engines but it can usually only can gain 5 or fewer total Top 20 rankings for just for a few words (usually they are on Hotbot). I've submitted it twice since October; October and February to be exact. I'm not sure why it's not gaining higher positions? Can anyone offer advice as to why my rankings haven't come in? Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks!

CY

[edited by: heini at 4:21 pm (utc) on June 4, 2003]
[edit reason] no urls per TOS / thank you [/edit]

[vincevincevince]

First of all, remove your url, it's in breach of the TOS.
Secondly, I did mangage to take a peek:

1 - no <h1> tag / text
2 - 3 pages of meta tags and scripts before any content
3 - meta tag URL to your main site really makes crosslinking hard to detect
4 - don't call your site map "Site Map"
5 - you have no worthwhile backlinks
6 - you have a lack of textual content past the keyword overstuffed front page
7 - (not SEO) the word ENTER doesn't have an <a on it!

Best of luck

[entrap]

Sorry about the URL, I forgot...Thanks for your notes...

What should the sitemap link be called then?

[vincevincevince]

Anything but Site Map ;) Try "Our index" or "Guide to the site"... "Site Map" is penalised

[mrguy]

Why do you say site map is penalized when in the Google TOS it tells you to make one?

Whey would a site map be penalized.

I think your jumping to conclusions based on a half baked index.

I've got a page named sitemap2 that was put up around Feb. Sure enough, with the unfinished index, it is white, but still shows up high in the SERPS for searches optimized on that page.

If it were penlalized, it would not.

GG said do not pay any attention to the toolbar now and instead to the rankings. Sounds like solid advice to me:)

[Jakpot]

"Site Map" is penalised'

Not so - search on site map

[nutsandbolts]

Calling your Site Map page "Site Map" [google.com] is fine and dandy.

However, this thread has a 0 pagerank because we talked about it...hehe..kiddin'

[trillianjedi]

I personally don't think that google are penalising files or links that contain the words "site map" or "links" either.

But possibly they are penalising pages which consist purely of links (and possibly if they contain only internal links).

In which case I would suggest a better way of dealing with that is to put some descriptive content on the page - take DMOZ as an example of pages of links which also have content surrounding them. That's good for users.

I don't think the name will make any difference. It's too easy for webmasters to just change it. If google want them out the index there are far easier and more reliable ways of detecting site maps than by name.

TJ

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