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[edited by: heini at 9:31 am (utc) on June 2, 2003]
[edit reason] Removed url per TOS / Thanks! [/edit]
You need a site with high pagerank linking to your site.
dmoz can take a very long time and yahoo is in business really. You can pay for fast inclusion, and they garantee to answer within seven days if they include your site yes or no.
if you do not wish to spend the money you have to go on an e-marketing campaing - ask free directories and friendly sites to link to your page.
hope it helps :-))
I would put it down to present google transition period. My two month old site does not seem to register much, though google knows it for sure.
To feel better, keep an eye on FAST (www.alltheweb.com) or use Hotbot which acts a front-end for several engines. You should start to appear on these soon. Also look at Overture. Don't worry too much about Teoma, after six months, my site still appears and disappears (but I haven't noticed others complaining of this). You may have to wait a long time to appear in AltaVista.
cheers
Has the worm turned?
I would suggest that you:
1) Get link/s from site/s, which are already in the index of Google.
2) Manually submit your site to Google.
3) Pay to yahoo unless of course your site will be not accepted in the directory as its a commercial site.
4) Wait till mid-June as ODP is under up gradation and site submissions/additions and changes in the listings are on the hold.
I have seen your site, before it got snipped off. I don’t think you have got any penalty as such; it’s a clean site. Also the suggestion of removing the frames and making static pages is a correct suggestion.
[edited by: shaadi at 12:10 pm (utc) on June 2, 2003]
No expert on frames, but it is what came to mind immediately to me.
1) Get a link/s from site/s already in google's index.
2) Manually submit to Google.
DMOZ and Yahoo have nothing to do with it. But any or both will ensure that you will be sooner or later in get in the index.
About your site optimization -
1) I see the site, it is properly optimized, good content and a very good keyword rich domain.
2) I would suggest that you get rid of the frames, they are of no good and you have done it wrong with the frames.
3) I don't think that frames are causing any problems with index, ya but will be causing problems once you get index.
Edit Reason: What the heck!
[edited by: shaadi at 1:08 pm (utc) on June 2, 2003]
two new sites (1 to 2,5 months), I marketed for free directories and submitted to search engines including google,
can't find any trace on the web yet. One site had a brief freshbot appearance.
1 new site 2,5 month old included in yahoo (paid inclusion) plus spent some money on regular advertising in target group press
index page is listed in google and other search engines, subpages had freshbot appearances I tend to think are connected with the advertising, freshbot appearances have ended
I think the advice by starec in getting robust is extremely good, though difficult to achieve. Getting considerable traffic from a site that is not google definitively is quite an achievement.
They usually appear in the Serps after 2-3 days. Much better than submitting and waiting I feel.
I think the advice by starec in getting robust is extremely good
Where is the advice by starec?
I can't see it :(
Thankyou for your comments! we spent quite a bit of time just making a sensible navigation, with a good url structure and as we know nothing of duping the search engines we have not gone for hidden text or cloaking etc as we knew we would get caught. We just need to see some placement now which would be nice.
1. Remember that category's are edited by volunteers. Some categories get a great many submitted sites building up in their unreviewed list. Best thing you can do to help get you in is to help them. Ideal situation is that your submission requires no editing whatsoever. They just click "publish" and job done.
2. With the above in mind, before you submit, have a look and see if the category has an editor or not (bottom of the page). Then have a real good look at the existing sites in the category. If there is an allocated editor, when you make your submission, copy their style of description writing. The editor will immediately see that you have thought about it, and it also shows him/her that you respect the job that they are doing in editing that category. It's also flattery. A description along the lines of "The best widget site in the world bar none!" is going to get, at best, ignored and at worst, deleted without review.
3. Quadruple check that there are no errors in the URL and that there are no spelling mistakes or grammatical errors in the description. There is absolutely no excuse for that - you wouldn't believe some of the ones I get. What sort of first impression does that give me before I've even looked at your site?
4. Patience, patience and more patience. Editors are volunteers.
5. If no luck after 4-6 weeks, consider if there's another category that you can submit to, preferably one with an existing editor, that's on topic and try there. All sites, where applicable, are allowed a regional and World listing. So try the other one.
Check the Resource Zone to find out where your site is currently in terms of review.
TJ
The category also has 2 editors?
[edited by: heini at 2:57 pm (utc) on June 6, 2003]
[edit reason] please leave out specifics [/edit]
Nice post. :)
Do you know how dmoz handles categories that have no editor? I've been waiting for some time to get my site in dmoz--any info you can provide would be cool.
Thanks!
Peter
There's probably a whole load of other explanations, but I think your best bet now is to head over to Resource Zone and ask there.
Peter,
I meant to add that in my original post:-
6. If a category has no editor, look up to the parent category and see who edits there. Then follow their style of description writing instead. Increase the time frame to 2-3 months.....
TJ
:)
j/k man...thanks for the info
<edit>Ach! You edited it before I posted</edit>
Peter
