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I have a few questions. I know these questions have been raised quite a few times, and I even read through the previous posts, but couldn't come up with a final conclusion.
1) Changing H1, H2 size through css?
- Does Google consider this as spam? I want to put H1 and H2 tags on my pages, but since this looks too large, I want to reduce the size just a bit using css. Would Google see this as "different to the user, and different to the search engine" kind of thing, or is this fine to implement.
Mind you, the text which I wish to include in H1 and H2 tags would be larger than the normal text, but just a little smaller than original H1. Another option is to use maybe H3 and H4, instead of H1. What do you guys feel?
2) Div/Layers to take the content at the start.
This is something which I wish to implement on my site, but am worried that Google would consider than it is wrong. I have very huge navigational bars at the top which contain a lot of html junk. Bcoz of this the user has to wait for a longer time so that first the navigational header loads and then the main content laods.
If I do something with the help of layers such that the navigational header looks to the human eye at the top of the page, but the code of it is at the bottom of the html source code, then the main content would get loaded much faster.
Would this be considered wrong according to Google. Bcoz, Google says that anything that looks "different to the user, and different to the search engine" would be considered as spamming
Please note that I am a very honest webmaster, and have never tried to implement anything wrong, and will never do so, but it is scary as to what may look innocent to me may be considered as bad by Google, and I cannot afford to get my site banned on Google.
GoogleGuy, could you give your comments on these issues, bcoz it seems many people have started implementing it.
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If you are worried you will be fine. Google tends only to punish blatant spammers.
We use CSS to change heading sizes, but this is for design reasons. Nobody ever suggested there is anything wrong with this. I'm not even sure Google distinguishes between the importance of different heading sizes.
If you hide keywords using layers you might get a ban if a competitor reports you, but if you use layers just for design reasons and hide nothing you will be fine.
In my experience bans tend to be for things like hidden text, cross linking sites with similar or same content, blatant keyword stuffing, joining a link farm, creating duplicate content on different pages/sites and so forth.
If you have a conscience you will be unlucky to get a ban.
1) Changing H1, H2 size through css?
- Does Google consider this as spam?
Answer: No. Use headings, paragaraphs and divs a.s.o. to structure your pages, and then use CSS to style it. You can also style headings the same font size as regular text and use color and font-weight to disinguish the headings from the text. Nothing wrong with that. But don't use headings to stuff keywords. Use them to please the surfers, and use CSS to please the surfers eyes.
2) Div/Layers to take the content at the start.
This is something which I wish to implement on my site, but am worried that Google would consider than it is wrong.
Answer: Do it. You do also please part of the blind surfers, if their programs to surf the web read the code from top to the bottom. There's no reason why G should think the order of elements in the code and on the screen should be the same. I even doubt they consider this at all.
Now could you help me as to how to implement layers so that the html code is at the bottom of the source, but to the human eye it looks to be at the top. Are there any discussions on this topic which I could read.
Thanks.
#nav {
position: absolute;
top: 0px;
left: 0px;
}
#content {
margin-top: (whatever height your #nav is)
} That would allow you the following html:
<body>
<div id="content">blah blah blah</div>
<div id="nav">menu menu menu</div>
</body>
Maybe a bit oversimplified, but you could build on that idea.
I have started a post in the css forums: [webmasterworld.com...]
mipapage, you said that
"1. no 2. do it"
Does that mean, do both (1) and (2), or does that mean only do (2) but not (1)? Sorry for the silly question.
Anyone else would like to comment on this topic?
Thanks.
how do you guys think these 2 above mentioned factors could be affected. Do you think it is best to stay away from H1, H2 tags, and using div positioning?
I personally feel that using an H1 tag on my page to highlight the term for which the page is meant should be perfectly valid. Afterall that is what the H1 tag was made for, and all we are doing is reducing the massive size of H1 with the help of css. Is this now considered to be bad.
Also, div positioning so that the content comes at the top seems like a good option to me, since this helps in quicker loading the important parts of the page, and would even help the blind surfers.
What do you guys feel?
Internet Master
