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Help with Well linked site

lots of links , no results !

         

thebloke

3:20 pm on May 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



G'Day,
I have a well linked site, and now searching for "example" does not lead to "example.com". I have at least 50,000 inbound links (some say 100k), google says 2600. In the past, I've been PR8, but now I'm at PR6,

One possibility is that I have many links from bulletin
boards (since we provide a signature service).

Almost all the links would be something like:
[a href=http://www.example.com]example.com[/a] blah blah ...
or
[a href=http://www.example.com/ezb.html]example.com[/a]
where ezb.html is a 301 to the home page.
(we have around 40 of such 301 pages)

We give the user the HTML to cut and paste, so all the links would look quite identical....

I'm not sure if these things could cause problems or
perhaps there is some other unknown problem?

It's all straight up stuff. Any insight appreciated.

Cameron Gregory

[edited by: thebloke at 4:19 pm (utc) on May 16, 2003]

DaveN

3:37 pm on May 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



HI thebloke and wecome to WebmasterWorld,

1st Can you remove your url from your post or a mod will it's against the TOS

2nd it's sound like you are suffering from Guestbooks and bulletin
boards that have being getting pr0.

sticky me the url and i will have a quick look.

DaveN

thebloke

4:29 pm on May 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Well, one thing against the Bulletin Board / Guestbook penalty ideas is that we've been penalized like this for about a year now ... I'm assuming the BB penality is something new....

I suspect a manual penalty, but it's not clear why ...
(nor when it would end).

Cameron

ciml

5:22 pm on May 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



I certainly wouldn't discount the the idea of a manual penalty, given that you've suffered in various ways for a while. (17 months now?) But...

Almost all the links would be something like:
[a href=http://www.example.com]example.com[/a] blah blah ...

That may be it Cameron. A lot of people seem to have difficulty with pages that are linked from other sites, always using the same link text.

Calum

ariff44

6:35 pm on May 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



ciml -

Do you believe that if your inbound links have the same anchor text this is a negative? Why would this be the case and what evidence have you seen of that?

thebloke

1:24 am on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



> I certainly wouldn't discount the the idea of a manual penalty, given that you've suffered in various ways for a while. (17 months now?) But...

G'Day Calum,
Good to hear from you. Although perhaps the above line makes me seem like some spammy site? You know it's not, but for others, my site is a large site that provides a genuine service to people (we make images, lots of images). All for free!

ariff: I read some of the arguments for/against links that all look the same. It could certainly hurt large sites, but perhaps they have enough diversity in their links to to cause a problem. In my case I'm giving thousands of people the exact same code. (which they place in return for the service that I provide them).

But what should I do? I could randomize the text link that the enter, but that would appear to me to be even more spammy.

And if I'm being penalized for this or for lots of links from bulletin boards, should I make the link go elsewhere so that it doesn't negatively effect my site?

As always, your thoughts and time are appreciated.

Cameron

ciml

2:00 pm on May 17, 2003 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that the site is spammy.

<brief history>There were a bunch of closely related services, each on their own domain from well before PageRank was known about. That issue was resolved but the old and well linked site you're talking about now seems to have some other problem.</>

So, in same the way that someone's closely related and therefore crosslinked sites could trip a spam detection routine, maybe having a vast number of links with the same link anchor text could do also. I'm nowhere near sure, but it's the best guess I've come up with.

ariff, it's not an issue where I can find examples for scientific proof. However, a lot of smart people are wary of having many identical inbounds, so it's something I take seriously.