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very strange site linking to mine

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Louise

7:10 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just had a look at backlinks and found a german site linking to mine, its naked women n stuff, I run a business that isnt into that stuff thanks, how can I stop this, or can I? and will it cause me problems in the future?

Thanks guys

Louise

MHes

7:16 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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no problem, just hopefully some good pr from them!

No one can effect your rankings in a negative way by linking to you.

takagi

7:20 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Louise, is there really a link on the page, or is it an error in Google's database? If there is a link, are there more links to 'normal' sites? If so, is there a pattern (link related to 1 keyword or so)?

Louise

7:20 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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thats a relief, isnt my cup o tea, but hubby would like it lol fake celebs stuff.

born2drv

7:21 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I used to think that way too, but now I'm not so sure.

I've got a site that has dropped significantly for some search terms on SJ, and the only thing I can think of is that my site is no longer "themed" like others still ranking well. Because of the people linking to my site. So when you do a "similar sites" search on google for my site, you see all these shadey sites as well.

So Google obviously thinks I'm somehow related/similar to these sites.

I hope GoogleGuy can shed some light on this because it would be really unfortunate if poeple could change the "theme" of your site by linking a bunch of off-theme spam to it.

markdidj

7:21 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It shouldn't affect your site at all.

Otherwise people could set up a site, purely to get it banned, then link it to all their competitors.

The only way it could be detrimental is if your clients were to look at your backlinks and associate them with your site.

born2drv

7:22 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Louise ... do a similar sites search, are you "similar" to any of these sites ... or sites they link to?

Louise

7:22 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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to be honest I dont want to go and have a look lol

as long as it wont effect my site

Louise

Louise

7:23 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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born2drv

Believe me we are not similar, I have a consultancy in London and it isnt the same, but yes it says similar.

Louise

Louise

7:29 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hey guys just found another one selling, am I aloud to say this sorry if im not, but t-shirts, if that isnt spamming then wow.

Marcia

7:33 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Louise, are they using keywords in the anchor text linking to your site?

Louise

7:35 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Marcia,

Im sorry, but im terribly new to this and im not sure what you mean by anchor text?

When I did a similar to search it came up with this german site and a tshirt site.

will this cause me problems? im page 1 no 7 on my main keyword.

Thanks Louise

Marcia

7:39 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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<a href="http://www.example.com">Keyword here? This is anchor text.</a>

mandy54

7:40 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I belive it depends how he links to you.

For ex. there are 10 links to your site and the link text is ten times abcd

Then in terms of links you have a relevancy of 100 % to the keyword abcd.

However if 5 links say abcd and 5 say xyz then you would have a relevancy of 50 % to the keyword.
Acording to this rule you would'nt rank that high on either of the keywords.

This won't matter for sites with thouthands of links, but it can harm smaler sites.

I have had a domain where this has happened.

But I don't know if Google has changed their algo meanwhile on that

BigDave

7:42 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I had something like this happen too.

I finally figured out what happened, and it's sort of related to the expired domain game.

One of our members had a URL third level domain with one of the redirection services (name.service.com) that went to his account at his ISP (www.isp.com/~name). He recently set up www.name.com, and got most of the links changed over.

He no longer needed the redirection service so he closed that account and in less than a day a danish porn site swooped in and picked up his account name

The porn site was showing up as a backlinke because his site used to have a link to my site, but the porn site was in the cache and the backlinks from a more recent crawl.

Louise

7:44 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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thank you Marcia, ive just viewed source and there it is, can I do anything?

Louise

7:46 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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its got my url through its view source code

gheeee Why?

rfgdxm1

8:00 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>I've got a site that has dropped significantly for some search terms on SJ, and the only thing I can think of is that my site is no longer "themed" like others still ranking well. Because of the people linking to my site. So when you do a "similar sites" search on google for my site, you see all these shadey sites as well.

For the general search, I've never seen evidence Google themes between sites. (Although, they may theme based on all the content on a specific site.) If Google did, then this would be a way to hose the competition. Who links to a site is out of the Webmaster's control.

Louise

8:04 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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so there isnt alot I can do about it, realy is there?

Louise

my3cents

8:42 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I noticed in the new index that one of my clients sites has some new backlinks. The new backlinks are from a competitor who has placed hidden anchor text for the #1 keyword in the industry pointing to my clients site. The competitor has put blue link text inside of a blue cell (Page BG= White).

I have read here in the past that google's algo cannot punnish a website for anything someone else does, including any spammy ways someone links to it.

I guess my question is, can the fact that a competitor is using hidden anchor text links on every page of their website have an adverse effect on my clients PR or anchor text and backlinks calculation?

The other strange thing is that over 100 legitimate backlinks are not showing up on any of the semi-updated datacenters, yet this hidden spam does....

mandy54

11:22 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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If I would be you I would ask the guy to delite the link, if he doesn't want to, tell him that you will sign countles
Guestbooks with a link to his site with off Topic Link texts.
As far as I understand this guy knows what he is doing, so tell him that he is in the same boat.

Or tell him that you will file a spam report on him.
As he is using such tricks he is probably spaming as well.

If I would be him I would delite the link then :-)

born2drv

11:27 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>>For the general search, I've never seen evidence Google themes between sites. (Although, they may theme based on all the content on a specific site.) If Google did, then this would be a way to hose the competition. Who links to a site is out of the Webmaster's control.

Exactly, that's why Google's new "local pagerank" patent and "spam maps" (whatever it is)... really scares me.

I'm thinking they are somehow interpreting sites that exhibit unusual linkage structure as being spammy, or not assigning it any local pagerank of it's local industry theme. Which is fine if analyzing outbound links, but not really fair for inbound links for the reason you mentioned.

nativenewyorker

11:28 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Louise,

Given the huge # of adul+ related websites out there that have a splash page with enter and exit (to non-adul+) options, I highly doubt you would get penalized. Otherwise, Yahoo and Disney would get lumped together with the adul+ themed sites due to the sheer quantity of inbound links.

Ted

rfgdxm1

11:43 pm on May 10, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>If I would be you I would ask the guy to delite the link, if he doesn't want to, tell him that you will sign countles Guestbooks with a link to his site with off Topic Link texts.

At best this would be a waste of time, and at worst you just boost this other site's PR and SERPs. Why do him a favor? Only possible downside of links like this is wasted bandwidth if visitors who would have no interest in your site click on the link.

Chris_D

11:49 am on May 11, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Louise,

I'd be more concerned about the link text itself. There was a lot of snickering a while back when it was realised that where a porn splash page asked 'are you over 18?' - it let you into the site if you clicked 'yes, I am over 18' - and if you clicked 'No, I am under 18' - you got redirected to a 'kids' type site.

I just checked - disney still ranks number 1 for 'i am under 18' - which isn't a phrase on the page. Which isn't necessarily bad in this example.

But it could be.