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My question is; are there really people out there making real money from Adsense? (like over $100 daily) and what sort of (real) visits numbers do I need before I'm able to acheive this?
Seb
Actually I bought the house at foreclosure price, fair market it is worth $750K (acre of land) and I'm in AZ so triple that in CA prices which is about even with UK prices.
Did I mention I work 14 hrs a day 7 day a week.
Did I mention I work 14 hrs a day 7 day a week.
Slacker Khensu:-)
Nothing less than 18 hour days accepted as the justification for making money!
Well, that's what I tell my other half I'm doing:-)
Well maybe 2 of the 4 hours.
Before I started on the internet, many years ago, I was a well paid programmer/project leader for various 40+hr/week corporate companies, some of which you have likely heard of, but was burned out. I also had various health (and perhaps attitude:-) issues which was making it harder to work regular hours and thus get anyone decent to hire me again, so I dropped out of the daily grind and started my own company in the early 90's and now make far more/yr than I ever did as a hired programmer. Our websites far pre-dated Adsense, and they were deisgned in magazine style to be an information authority as well as to promote other advertisers in our niche.
We already owned a 5BR home we like from my and my wife's (who no longer works) prior earnings, but we have recently bought a vacation condo on the beach in Maui (with Wifi of course so we can use the laptop when we go) and two new Prius' (and restored some of my vintage cars) with some of the G earnings. Our needs are modest so most of the rest we've just safely invested for retirement. I'm under 50 YO but consider myself semi-retired and "work" a maximum of 4hrs/day 5-6 days a week (most of which consists of checking GAd/affiliate earnings, e-mail and "employees'" progress.)
So yes, you CAN (or at least used to be able to) make decent earnings on Adsense. But you can make even more these days by including select outside advertising and affiliates of products you truly believe in and can vouch for. We have one reputable product (which we use ourselves) who's commissioned sales account for nearly 10% of our total monthly earnings, and this is promoted from a single page which used to formerly make about .50/day with Adsense ads... advertising mostly the same product! This is mostly because you can call attention to affiliate links, which you can't do with Adsense ads.
My theories about Smart pricing, since others are sharing:
- Pages which are changed or updated at least once a month earn better.
- The SOURCE (i.e. how they arrive at your site) of your visitors is most important (I won't get more detailed than that.)
- Pages which G considers better quality earn better (however the unexpected WAY I think they determine this I will not elaborate on either.)
- I filter MFAs and Arbs
[edited by: MikeNoLastName at 10:33 pm (utc) on May 6, 2008]
What do you think I am doing the other 4 hours!
THINKING about making money! :)
Nah, I do that 24/7, even in my dreams.
I have a comic book coming this summer aimed to the post Harry Potter audience, that should rock! The only reason I spilled it early is Markus showed up and I wanted him to know I would be hot on his revenue heels!
Sorry only did a quarter mil with G last year but this year looks a bit better.
[edited by: Khensu at 8:30 pm (utc) on May 7, 2008]
I shifted billions of pageviews to other adnetworks and affiliate programs. In adsense you get 50 cent CPM's... If you take 4 affiliate programs and write them up to look like adsense ads and frequency capping them to 3 pageviews a day nets you $3.00 CPM's.
man, you just gave me the BEST idea - thanks!
I just looked at my life time earnings as well and its well over the $10 Million mark.
Nah... That American Dollar is such crappy currency these days.
Can you even buy a car for that in Europe?
Our total earnings so far with Adsense is around $650,000 with mostly 1 website. We added 1 site last year and another site this year. Our traffic is not spectacular (about 40,000+ level in Alexa)but our eCPM is consistently through the roof -- let's say that an eCPM of $25 will make me cry.
We've seen our Adsense income rise -- and fall back to the ground. We lost about 80% of our traffic when Google penalized us for being too generous with linking (we were linking to anyone willing to give us a reciprocal link, even those outside of our niche). And from making 5 digits a month, our Adsense income dropped back to just $2-3,000 a month. It was one big ouch.
We got back after a quarter in Google's good graces after removing all links. But that quarter was extremely painful. I can't even bear to login to look at our account.
Having seen that Adsense can be gone in a second, we've since been focusing a lot on selling ads ourselves, and income from our banner and text ads (all javascript served and no direct links) have been very good.
Our goals now are to increase pageviews per visitor of our site and increase traffic.
netmeg,
Which affiliate programs let you customize layout?
> I shifted billions of pageviews to other adnetworks and affiliate programs. In adsense you get 50 cent CPM's... If you take 4 affiliate programs and write them up to look like adsense ads and frequency capping them to 3 pageviews a day nets you $3.00 CPM's.
How is this legit?
Adsense Policy
In order to prevent user confusion, we do not permit Google ads or search boxes to be published on websites that also contain other ads or services formatted to use the same layout and colors as the Google ads or search boxes on that site. Although you may sell ads directly on your site, it is your responsibility to ensure these ads cannot be confused with Google ads.
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How is this legit?
Who says Markus has Adsense on his website?
Which affiliate programs let you customize layout?
I'm pretty new to affiliate stuff; the only one I've found so far is pepperjam - there are probably more.
In order to prevent user confusion, we do not permit Google ads or search boxes to be published on websites that also contain other ads or services formatted to use the same layout and colors as the Google ads or search boxes on that site. Although you may sell ads directly on your site, it is your responsibility to ensure these ads cannot be confused with Google ads.
It says they can't be formatted to the same layout and colors on that site. I would assume you could use a different size, different color, different border than the way you've set your AdSense to look, and still be in compliance.
In fact, Jensense recently had a post about it on her blog as well. I never know if I can post links to these things, but I'm sure you can find it if you look.
Use common sense.. Adbrite, YPN and a million other contextual ad formats look virtually identical.
Until December 06 I had earned virtually nothing from Adsense, I was broke and was facing reposesion of our home.
In October 06 I had launched a new site that I did not expect to do well and it took a few months to take off.
By March 08, this single site had earned me enough from adsense alone to clear all of my debts, mortgage arrears, bank loans, CCJ's (debts with court orders) etc, in that time we have also been able to pay for 2 overseas holidays for a family of 5, have the house rewired, new heating, attic converted, new windows installed and house totally re-rendered and all paid in cash. I also have enough saved that is equivelant to 2 years salary based on the 'average' earnings in the UK.
So, although Google have now decided to ban the site from adsense, I am grateful for the earnings over the past 18 months which have made me much more financially secure.
One thing I have learned over the past month or so though, is don't put all your eggs in one basket, now the site is not showing adsense my earnings have dropped drastically and I am now spending time looking for good alternatives, which I should done before instead of releying on Adsense alone.
Google claimed that the site was now against the ToS, but it was a few weeks ago now and although not thrilled I have decided add a different revenue source to the site and move on. The site with adsense got me out of a rut and I now have to make sure I come up with something new to keep me out of it rather than dwell on whats gone.
Dataguy: Penny per Unique visitor? Assuming you mean per day. I like that metric, as it seems to be a good rule of thumb. However I’m averaging below this.
rj87uk: serious money – Enough money to live on.
MikeNoLastName: That’s what keeps bugging me is that when I first started with adsense some years ago now, I was getting 10 times more EPC.
I’ve just remove my MFA list for the first time a few days ago. Hasn’t changed anything (yet). Though I did get a huge dip in EPC when I updated my MFA a week before that. (which prompted me to try removing it)
Alika: I personally think that links from know bad or totally irrelevant websites will reduce your PR, which is probably what you have experienced.
cgiscripts4u: I would be interested to know what alternatives to adsense you go with. There are so many to choose from now.
Well it seems 10,000 real unique visitors is what I need to aim for.
My question is; are there really people out there making real money from Adsense? (like over $100 daily) and what sort of (real) visits numbers do I need before I'm able to achieve this?
of course there are people making real money off the web. Unfortunately Im not one of them yet, but I believe the ones who are deserve every cent of it; either through hard work or genius ideas
If you take 4 affiliate programs and write them up to look like adsense ads and frequency capping them to 3 pageviews a day nets you $3.00 CPM's.
OK I'm dumb - I don't understand what "frequency capping them to 3 pageviews a day" means.
Would you care to elaborate?
Thanks
Telling it not to show the ads more than 3 times a day. The frequency of the ad(amount of times it shows) is capped(the most that it will show) to 3 pageviews a days(shown 3 times a day). Seems like a lot of work for just 3 ads in a day or was the sentence not as straight forward as I thought?
