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My question is; are there really people out there making real money from Adsense? (like over $100 daily) and what sort of (real) visits numbers do I need before I'm able to acheive this?
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The remaining 7,206 sessions were visitors to your web site (11,188 - 3,982). This doesn't mean they were unique visitors, but probably most of them were.
If 85% were unique visitors, that would be 6,125. Was your AdSense earnings anywhere close to $61.25 USD? That would be a penny per unique visitor.
[edited by: Jane_Doe at 10:08 pm (utc) on April 28, 2008]
With 1 or a few specific sites the revenues would also be impacted a lot by the category, ppc values and keywords but I think if you have a number of diverse sites the 1 penny per visitor guideline is a good way, which certainly is a valid formula with my websites.
If traffic is not a factor then how did dataguy somehow know what my income was so accurately?
I could throw out any income figure per visitor, within reasonable bounds, and it would probably match the income of a subset of at least some of the people who are reading this thread.
Also, I didn't say traffic wasn't a factor at all, but with Adsense there clearly isn't an exact correlation with traffic to earnings.
It appears the more new sites you have running Adsense and more Adsense pages with traffic have a mysterious reverse correlation to revenue, which is the opposite of what effect you would think more websites and traffic would have.
It may not be so mysterious. To get more traffic you often you have to go after more general terms, which may not convert as well as specific niche terms. Or you may have to go after different terms than you already have on your site, which may diffuse your ad pool with ads for lower paying topics. Or you may have a finite pool of ads for your site, so even though you are getting more traffic, your visitors are still seeing the same ads over and over again.
I tell them that basically a penny per unique, organic visitor is what they should expect.
In the last six months, I've had about forty-thousand unique visitors, and made one-hundred-fifty dollars. So I guess I'm behind the curve by some distance.
Due to serious seasonal fluctuations all of the data was averaged over the past year.
Good to know the ballpark figures where others are, let's keep them coming!
I seem to be slightly above $0.02 per absolute unique visitor
I'm pleased to say a "me too"!
Interestingly, and I remember the conversation with my bar colleagues well discussing the pros and cons, when I first started with AdSense 4+ years ago I guesstimated that a return of $0.01 per unique would be required to justify using the program.
Good to see others do too.
but those same people would probably be making twice as much if there were working for a company or doing other business.
I'd be making more than twice as much, but I don't like working. I'm now going back to school full time, and I can't imagine doing that while having a full time job. I go kayaking, fishing or hiking when I want.
I've also run businesses, both in the real world and e-commerce. Both of those required me to be somewhere or do something (like ship product) at certain times. With AdSense, I get to play, write about it, and get paid.
And if I actually spent the 50-70 hours per week writing that I used to spend working, I would be making more money than I did as a consultant within a year.
but those same people would probably be making twice as much if there were working for a company or doing other business.
And you are basing that conclusion on what data?
I'm perfectly willing to take a pay cut, a serious pay cut, to have the sort of freedom I enjoy now.
but those same people would probably be making twice as much if there were working for a company or doing other business.
Not me.... I would be flipping burgers if it wasn't for AdSense. Dot-com mogul or ADD-ADHD misfit... I sure am thankful for AdSense.
but those same people would probably be making twice as much if there were working for a company or doing other business.
Oh! So you know what I do as a business and how much I am making?
</looks over shoulder for prying taxman>
No, I don't have any data to back up my theory. just my 2 cents, which wouldn't even buy a paper.
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Make a living from your entire web enterprise, including your other ad/affiliate partners
Whilst I agree with this in principal there are many widget sectors where other revenue streams simply do not exist and probably never will do.
Staying on message, I'd estimate that I make somewhere in the neighborhood of a French fry or two, maybe three, per unique visitor, on average.
Mind you, I haven't actually counted the French fries dispensed with my oh so happy meals, so this is just a guess.
I bought $500,000 new house in the mountains with a 250' driveway and work in my pajamas most of the day. 11 year old site 30,000 uniques per day main site, turing out new projects every few months.
[edited by: Khensu at 5:53 pm (utc) on May 6, 2008]
I bought $500,000 new house in the mountains
You'd be lucky to even get a house in some parts of the UK for that money...well, an unlit basement flat in need of renovation maybe!
First and foremost your topic and from which countries your traffic is coming from.
Take mobile phones, choose a handset that sells well in Asia, you'll be screwed by google big time. Google does not like Asian traffic. You'll earn next to nothing on a website with 50,000 unique visitors a day.
Create a site based on a US or UK model and you'll earn probably 100x more per visitor.
Choose a good topic that will attract UK and US traffic, have great SEO to drive free traffic and you can earn very good money with google.
You'd be lucky to even get a house in some parts of the UK for that money...well, an unlit basement flat in need of renovation maybe!
So true, so true.
I often wonder why I'm still in the UK, earning a living from adsense has the advantage that we can take our work anywhere, most places our money would go so much further.
