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Is it earlier this time?

   
8:44 pm on Dec 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I see payment in pogress in my account now. 21st december.
Last time i saw it on 28th
Am i the only one seeing this early?

Anything to do with holidays?

8:15 pm on Dec 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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our account has earned more than $100 in November

Congratulations glowingdesigns, you made me smile, that figure is a mark I go through fast, but your smile after saying it means a lot, keep going, set higher milestones in your crosshair, and good luck :)

And yes Shawna, PIP means different things to different people, nice reminder.

[edited by: Hobbs at 8:17 pm (utc) on Dec. 26, 2006]

8:46 pm on Dec 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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lol - it actually earned MUCH more than that with it showing near that for December to date as well - we are quite pleased as it was a GREAT way to help with our site's expenses with large traffic volume :)

we still have lots of places on our site we haven't placed the ads that brings traffic on them but really were curious to see if "google ads" really "worked" and if it would our site generate revenue and reduce expense -- so we are ALWAYS thrilled when we get a check... even if it's not til the 31st... I'm a happy camper!

8:47 pm on Dec 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I haven't checked for "PIP", but my paper check arrived in my snail-mail in Minnesota, USA today.
8:54 pm on Dec 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It would actually be advantageous for most people in the US to receive their December payment in January. If you're using the cash accounting method, that money, if received in Jan, would not have any tax due on it for 2006. Tax would not be due on it until Apr 2008. So you'd earn over a year's worth of interest on the portion of the December money you'd normally have paid tax on this April.
8:57 pm on Dec 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Good for you happy camper ;-)

>"lots of places on our site we haven't placed the ads "

Fill it up but slooooowly.

[edited by: Hobbs at 9:05 pm (utc) on Dec. 26, 2006]

9:06 pm on Dec 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks so much for that tip as we are launching a new site design in January with a 100% CSS design and were going to put the missing google ads on the pages without; now I'll be sure and only add them slowly over the entire month of January instead! TFS that info!
9:29 pm on Dec 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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For those really "needing" it... on the google groups it was posted that someone sent an email about November 2006 payments specifically and were told - expect to be paid no later than January 5, 2007.

This coincides with their "by the end of the month" as already discussed :)

December 30-31 - weekend/Sunday
January 1 - holiday
January 2 - Tuesday/first business day that week

let's say they initiated between Dec. 29th - Dec. 31st (near to & last day); with the weekend/holiday/banks, etc. it takes about 3-5 days on my end for it to show up via EFT in my bank account and IF it's business day or not of course as well... this would then accurately reflect "by the end of the month" for EFT'ers that it's "dispursed by" and the time it's actually "received" in your bank account...

Just thought I'd post back what I'd read elsewhere :)

10:16 pm on Dec 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"It would actually be advantageous for most people in the US to receive their December payment in January. If you're using the cash accounting method, that money, if received in Jan, would not have any tax due on it for 2006. Tax would not be due on it until Apr 2008. So you'd earn over a year's worth of interest on the portion of the December money you'd normally have paid tax on this April."

Heh, yeah, obviously T doesn't pay estimated quarterly taxes. But that's what I thought last year too, and reported it without the last check to the IRS (which I honestly did not receive until after Jan 1), however when my 1099 MISC arrived from Google (2 days after I had to send in my estimated tax payment on Jan 15) they had included the earnings for November on it even though I had not received or cashed the check before the end of the year! As you know this info gets reported directly to the IRS, so what YOU report had better match up with what G (and your other 1099 MISC clients) reports. Since the difference was rather significant, I wound up having to write a letter to the IRS explaining my whole situation and begging for no fine, and a check for the difference in estimated taxes.

[edited by: MikeNoLastName at 10:20 pm (utc) on Dec. 26, 2006]

10:48 pm on Dec 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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hey mike, i'm no accountant, but check out the safe harbor rules.

as long as you pay 100 percent of what you paid in the previous year in quarterly payments, you don't have to worry about a penalty come tax time.

9:45 am on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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1. It is a bit rude to lead people to believe they will have their money by Christmas, when they won't.

I see nothing that has made people to believe we're receiving money earlier. If you can point out where they have said this, please do. The fact that 'we got them early on previous years' is not a reason.

10:27 am on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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From my payment history page:

"December earnings will be finalized by January 10th"

I can already see the red and blue faces,
seasonal colors indeed :-)

11:54 am on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't see this announcement on my payment page. I do believe something IS amiss with November payments. As yet no PIP or even a quick note here from adsense to let us know what the hold up is?
1:36 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"December earnings will be finalized by January 10th"

I think this means earnings in December only and not linked with November payments. If you look at their fancy new calendar graphics under the Payment History report it says

5th: If you do not receive your Secured Express delivery check or EFT payment by this date, you can request a reissue

2:29 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm not seeing any Payment in Progress on my history page. I am an EFT in Tennessee. This is the latest I've ever seen it go PIP. I checked my bank, just in case the payment went through, but not documented in the payment history (has happened before), and there is nothing.

Not only that, I still have not received the holiday card or corporate gift. Surely they sent cards at minumum to partners who make enough to support two families, as I do. While we have been a good partner for two years, I'm feeling like my business is not appreciated by Google.

All my other partners sent me a Christmas card, and some sent gifts as well, before the holiday arrived. A little smoozing goes a long way in partnerships. I can't even get a PIP in the normal(according to our history) time frame. All the other partners had their payments to me on time this month, and for that matter every month.

I don't care what the FAQ says, once you begin sending payments by any one date, it becomes the norm, and from there, anything later becomes "Late", and will always be known as "Late" by those publishers who have been around long enough to remember the PIP on the 21st.

Why is everything so late? Is it time to shift my ad inventory to one of the other three companys that have personally contacted me in the last week, urging me to give Adsense a boot and give them a try? One offered me a 75% split. Do you hear me Google? Time to hunker down, the competition is breathing down your neck, while you are alienating publishers. When you, through negligence, toss away accounts my size, you are sending a very clear message to investors.

Hello Google, wake up. I know, I need to quit whining. I'm off to work to see where I might try those three companys. I need to see what I might be missing. More eggs, more baskets, that is what this forum preaches, and today, that advice seems more appropriate than ever. I have diversified more and more in the past two years, and each time I get slighted by Adsense, I diversify a little more.

Will I email you to ask you why these things happened. No. You have a history of sending me canned responses, the few times I sent you emails on very serious topics, it would only be a waste of time. You will lose some of my business, and not know why, unless of course you read these threads.

2:34 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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conspiracy theory alert!

What if Google redesigned the payments page on purpose with new 'due date' guidelines so they could now pay us EFT on 5th day of the 3rd month?

2:40 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What bothers me is that a few people have seen PIP or similar messages, while most have not. Sure, that happens often, but usually followed quickly (a day later usually) by everyone seeing it, and it's usually Check vs. EFT, or USA vs. other countries. This time, it seems to be just a handful of people, with everyone else waiting, waiting, waiting. Feels like a problem...
2:53 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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MsHuggys,
A "season's greetings" card would make you feel better?
Or a digital photo frame perhaps?
How about better pay per click, and ads that entice your visitors to click and good advertisers inventory?
Maybe a reliable reporting system that you can trust?
Or just all the above?

It's good that you diversify, but for a card or gift is a bit too much, VERY late payment, maybe, if I find good PPC networks that don't carry "shoot the monkey" ads and pay 75% I would give them half my kingdom.

frakilk: Yes, December earnings come end of Jan, my bad.

2:57 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I read in the AdSense blog that Google employees will be out of the office until Wed. Dec. 27th. Hopefully, today they will be back to work, so we will get paid!
3:19 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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PIP EFT Portugal
3:22 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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JoaoJose,

What does it look like in the new payment page? Did it replace the November earnings line?

4:26 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No PIP, but my Google xmas card arrived today.
5:09 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am actually hoping for a late payment. Any payment after January 1st should go towards 2007 tax earnings? I need a little break for 2006 since I under paid my estimated taxes.
5:11 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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PIP in NYC
5:14 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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PIP - EFT Florida, USA

Not in bank yet.

5:17 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What does it look like in the new payment page? Did it replace the November earnings line?

Nope. New line for December.

5:20 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)



PIP - UK
December 2006
27 Dec Payment in progress
December earnings will be finalised by January 10th

WOOHOOOO! :D :D PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE!

ps. there was no payment in progress a few hours ago! :)

[edited by: noodlebox at 5:21 pm (utc) on Dec. 27, 2006]

5:20 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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PIP in CA
5:22 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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PIP here

but I don't get it

December earnings will be finalized by January 10th [?]

does it mean we recieve december earnigns in 10th of january?

5:25 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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PIP EFT USA NC
(don't you just love acronyms?)
5:28 pm on Dec 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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PIP in UK
December earnings will be finalised by January 10th
I guess this means that the final published total earnings for December 06 will be posted on the Payment history page no later than 10th January - a little later than the end of the first week in January as advertised. (I can't see how this would affect anyone significantly - if at all)
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