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10:30 am on Oct 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I discovered something in one of my zillions of tests I always have running, something huge. Something so huge in fact that after several additional tests has me shaking today.

I do not think it is a bug, with one change I can outrank any site in Googles index that competes with me. For all you smart arses no it is not adwords. I have never seen anything like this, not since Google was born. Not since all the web or webcrawler or av.

So if you discovered this, what would you do?
8:31 pm on Oct 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Call Google, tell them your secret and ask for a job.


More like Call Google and tell them if they don't give you a job you'll tell a few carefully selected SEO's.
8:51 pm on Oct 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I'd use it hard and fast and cashout while I can. Then sell an ebook on how I did it :0

I'm thinking niches; ecig, casino, p00rn, pills, forex, penny stocks, make money online, etc
9:00 pm on Oct 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I would share it, have others test it, and then take the deserved credit for discovering it.
9:24 pm on Oct 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I would email it to [EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED]
9:37 pm on Oct 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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You've already told too many people.

Expect one of the major news portals to carry the story by Monday.
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find the most search for term on the net.
make landing page.
rank #1
take millions.

move out of country
10:59 pm on Oct 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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The clue is in his post "which competes with mine".

Its a doddle.
11:53 pm on Oct 28, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I really do question whether it is possible to out rank ANY other website with just ONE simple 'trick' or thing... it just isn't possible. BUT... and this is the big BUT.. key phrase in the first post.. "... competes with me" yes but how many other sites 'compete with you'? because IF your website is such a tight niche then yes it would/should be possible to outrank anyone.. but would it work with several million competing websites... I somehow think not...
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Don't tell anyone and ponder on it for a few weeks, let it make you feel special and post a response soon that you found out it wasn't really working after all. When you're done with that, ponder on it some more :)
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Drall i have a high respect for you, Stop posting these silly messages, I am into SEO for very long time, I know how Google search engine works, The trick you are telling will hardly take you few positions not No.1. There are no major loopholes in Google search engine, I can assure you & everyone.
11:07 am on Oct 29, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Don't tell

Don't overdo. Rank for your main term, and stay that way. Overdoing it on all your pages, creating multiple low content easy-to-build pages in the hope of making as much money while you can is going to kill the golden goose.
12:04 pm on Oct 29, 2011 (gmt 0)

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There are no major loopholes in Google search engine, I can assure you & everyone.

I don't know how much truth is there in Drall's claim. But there are some major loopholes in Google SE. OK, it may not as easy as Drall claim but still easy to rank, if you know how to do it.
12:12 pm on Oct 29, 2011 (gmt 0)

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drall has probably just got his personalised search switched on. visit your site 100 times and you rise to the top -- a miracle!
1:49 pm on Oct 29, 2011 (gmt 0)

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There are no major loopholes in Google search engine, I can assure you & everyone.

Finally someone from Google to put an end to the rumours!
2:08 pm on Oct 29, 2011 (gmt 0)

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guess it is time for this thread to be locked...the fun i had is by doing a Google search for "web or webcrawler or av" with and without double quotes and seeing the results...

it does look like you can rank above others for certain keywords, even with content that you don't own, if you know how to do it ;)
4:08 pm on Oct 29, 2011 (gmt 0)

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the fun i had is by doing a Google search


Lol, excellent, and yet again another WordPress blog. Well done Google, another perfect example of the original being outranked!
4:51 am on Oct 30, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I haven't been this let down since +1 was released.
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the fun i had is by doing a Google search for "web or webcrawler or av"


it does look like you can rank above others for certain keywords, even with content that you don't own, if you know how to do it


It's not about knowing "how to do it" - it is about the brand bias. Search for "web or nike or av" and you will see.
9:05 am on Oct 30, 2011 (gmt 0)

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brinked, do you see any +1 for experts? I do see a sixer for rusty..
12:00 pm on Oct 30, 2011 (gmt 0)

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What I don't understand is why is this the "Featured Home Page Discussion"?

When I submitted an article last week (to newinventionsofalifetime dot com) about to how to design a car that didn't need ANY fuel or energy to run it, it never got a mention....
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What I don't understand is why is this the "Featured Home Page Discussion"?

clickbait ? ..;-)
1:32 pm on Oct 30, 2011 (gmt 0)

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drall

Just like webmasterworld uses honey pots to catch bots, so may Google. It must be very easy for Google to hunt down optimizers and experimenters. So why not set up a trap!

Just like publishers purposely misspell words to check for copyright infringement, Google may purposely set up weaknesses in their algo, but really only to catch over-optimizers.

Given what they've done in the past, Panda, and "tweaks" like the Oct 13th change, may just be to see what floats to the top, so they can then poor off the foam! It seems like they do periodically generate really bad results, perhaps it's on purpose. (Knowing Adsense characteristics, they probably earn more money when they run that purposeful kind of self degrading test.) (I'll probably get a lot of comments about this far fetched hypothesis; speculation is fun!)

If you use your trick too much you may be just taking Google's bate!

Uh oh, something to think about! Could be too good to be true!
1:54 pm on Oct 30, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Suckers!
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I discovered a bug in WMT 4 years ago.

I could see all the backlinks of any domain.

The first, I extracted all relevant data for me, after I published it on a spanish forum, and after I wrote a comment in Matt's blog

[goo.gl ]

This bug would have been discovered sooner or later by someone else, so I decided publish it.

Google never said anything about it, but I had more relevance in the Spanish seo, this helped me get a better job

This was my experience, I think I did the right thing for me.
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There are no major loopholes in Google search engine, I can assure you & everyone.


Not entirely true.
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I'd be very interested to know what software you are using to conduct your tests and whether it is available on the marketplace or custom made.
4:43 pm on Oct 31, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I have found lots of bank atm`s everywhere, everytime I put a plastic card in em they give me money.lol
5:37 pm on Oct 31, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Rockyou wrote:
There are no major loopholes in Google search engine, I can assure you & everyone.

Good news. Now, since there are no majorly exploitable flaws in Google's various algorithms, when can we expect detailed guidelines on what we, as webmasters, need to do (and not do) to create sites that Google deems worthy?

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When can we expect detailed guidelines on what we, as webmasters, need to do (and not do) to create sites that Google deems worthy?


Start here with the HTML Instructions...

HTML and XHTML Techniques for WCAG 2.0
[W3.org...]

Don't let the title fool you, it's a step by step guide for on page SEO. What you see and what you don't see.
8:04 pm on Oct 31, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I sure hope if you really did find this way, that you have spent the last 5 days or however long it's been making tons of money.

You'll regret winning the lottery and not cashing in that ticket.

You basically got a golden ticket into the Chocolate Factory. Man I love me some of that kind of chocolate.
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