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PR Update 20 Jan 2011 (down 1 for me)

     
1:56 pm on Jan 20, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Hi all,

As the subject says... site dropped by 1 today and on sub pages! Any one else seeing this?

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5:35 am on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Our very old established ecomm site went from 4 to a 3. hrumm...
we've gotten only natural backlinks.... no link scams etc.... wonder how this is going to end up.
6:20 am on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Yup, numbers changed.
Nope, traffic didn't.
Moving along.
6:35 am on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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If you mean your home page shows gray on the toolbar - well, there's no tool that's going to grab your "real" PageRank from Google.


Yes... I do know that... I was referring to the pagerank in the toolbar

If you mean a white PR 0, then you'll only see that go up if you get some strong backlinks from other sites. And even then, you' need to wait until the next PR update AFTER Google indexes those new links.


I've got backlinks, and I've had them for months. I think it's some sort of penalty, but I'm not sure what the problem could be. Obviously I've done something wrong, and I'm not sure how to move forward.
6:44 am on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Google PR upgrade but not drop any more Thanks
12:17 pm on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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PR is based on Data cannot be more recent than the beginning of december 2010. More probably somwhere around october.
1:31 pm on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Shouldn't this thread be called
"PR Update 20 Jan 2011 (down 1 for me)"
1:33 pm on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I would say it's from June / July. I have sites created in May that got PR (added backlinks at the same time). Sites created after July haven't got PR, not a single one and I have about 10 new ones after that date.
1:38 pm on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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How new was it?


Made with 1 month before previous PR.
1:44 pm on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Shouldn't this thread be called
"PR Update 20 Jan 2011 (down 1 for me)"


hadn't even noticed! maybe I'm in denial of my aging ...
4:07 pm on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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My mistake most definitely - thanks for catching it.
5:21 pm on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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One of my favourite hobby projects also jumped from a PR0 to a PR3. I don't care if it's a meaningless stat for determining traffic, it's like getting a happy birthday card from the toolbar. <smiles>
9:55 pm on Jan 21, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Me too, definite hit, still waiting to see where the dust settles.
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10:35 am on Jan 22, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Just to mention that Matt Cutts has posted on Twitter this morning:

"I would expect new toolbar PageRanks to roll out over the next few days."

[twitter.com ]
12:00 pm on Jan 22, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Who even cares about PageRank?
12:12 pm on Jan 22, 2011 (gmt 0)

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@marcogouveia Welcome to WebmasterWorld!
Way to start off posting like an oldtimer! lol

@reseller ... HUH? I thought it had been a long time since I saw that name here so I checked your recent posts and the last one you posted was Dec. 31, 2008 ... 2 years is a loooong time in my world ... Cool to see that user name again ... Hope things have been good for you ... You haven't been posting incognito have you? Whether you have or not, good to see you back.

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Oh, neato there was a PR update!
Whooooopiiiieeeeee
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Edit: My math is shaky at best this time o' the mornin' so I made a lil correction. Heuristically I was correct, but algorithmically I missed the mark. lol
2:05 pm on Jan 22, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Page rank is not important to many till they want to sell their site. They often are proud of the fact they have a PR6 site not pr0. Then it makes a difference. And to buyers as well. So it has its place.
2:54 pm on Jan 22, 2011 (gmt 0)

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The only reason i made an early comment on this thread was for what google bundled along with the PR update. And now it is all public after Matt Cutts blog post!

so folks, the PR update may not be important but the event is!
7:59 pm on Jan 22, 2011 (gmt 0)

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@TheMadScientist

Thanks for the kind words. Much appreciated.

Reading your comment just realized how fast 2 years can pass. I guess the older we get the faster years pass ;-)

Though I haven't been posting on WebmasterWorld, I kept visiting the forums, especially this specific forum which I think is veryt educating forum, especially for us who practice SEO.

God bless you all.
8:49 pm on Jan 23, 2011 (gmt 0)

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i am still waiting for a pagerank for a domain opened 5 months ago. (and it's pretty damn well linked lol)
8:49 am on Jan 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I have a few sites ranking on page 1 with no PR.. PR does not matter unless you're an ad site trying to impress your advertisers.. "Advertise with us, we're PR8!"
11:53 am on Jan 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I got a PR of 4 for my blog.
12:03 pm on Jan 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

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in recent times , I have seen a direct correllation between visible tbpr and google traffic to certain webpages and sites
3:50 pm on Jan 24, 2011 (gmt 0)

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PR is still an indicator, especially for marketers. Believe it or not, it still has some effect on rankings - not directly, not the green bar, but the concept of PageRank has some weight.
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I have noticed that whilst link building... some do look at your rank and will decide to reciprocate based on PR!
4:32 pm on Jan 25, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Anyone have any idea how widespread the green pixel update is? I've done a bit of spot checking, and none of the sites/pages I checked have changed, so I'm curious about how extensive other people think this pixel rollout is, so far.
10:07 pm on Jan 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

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Can I ask what tool everyone is using to check PR? (Sorry if this is a stupid question.)


I'd like to know this too. Still a kind of a newbie here.

It seems that for every post I see about Google Page Rank, I see 2 more that say there's no way to really tell what page rank is, or that whatever you think it is doesn't really matter.

What's the truth?
10:22 pm on Jan 26, 2011 (gmt 0)

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All you can ever check is Google's own toolbar PageRank - which is definitely not updated frequently. It also can be incorrect, such as the infamous gray bar, which doesn't mean "zero" but "no data available".

There is only Google's own PageRank servers that offer the PR numbers, so whatever toolbar, bookmarklet, application, browser plug-in or tool you use, you get the same information from that one source.
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I received my PR update within the last 3 days. A few years back I was a PR6 and altered the ownership of the site to someone else. Then, on the next update I went to PR3 and stayed there for a number of years.

(I am not saying that the change of ownership was the cause of the drop.)

Now i've jumped to PR5.

I haven't been active in link exchanges for years (long before the change of ownership), and nothing dodgy on the site. No black hat, no buying/selling links. IBL's from .gov .edu but looked like I was penalized in some way.

If I was, then it's been lifted, as it seems a long time since the update happening, and what's now on the toolbar.

Still, i'm happy even if PR isn't what it was.
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A PR5 today can easily indicate as strong a URL as a PR6 did several years back. I have seen these "one-off" toolbar changes on other sites, too - but they are something Google does outside the general PR exports. Don't know much about that mystery - it's hidden behind the Google wall of special sauce silence.
11:16 pm on Feb 7, 2011 (gmt 0)

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I have seen these "one-off" toolbar changes on other sites, too - but they are something Google does outside the general PR exports.


It certainly looks like it in this case, as it has been sometime since the update. It was glued to PR3 for feck knows how long. I've no idea why it was the case. It will be one of the many mysteries of Google.
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