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[edited by: tedster at 11:32 am (utc) on Jun 1, 2010]
I think for us the problems reside with the synonyms and other matching /intuitive data going too far.
Can you please check google.co.uk results? At one point i had asked you and you confirmed that google.ca was showing caffeine results at that time. But now google.co.uk seems to doing that job.
@gford: That is TOO funny!
... I can pretty safely say that in English language serps as indexed by the three major search engines, there aren't enough results to fill the first page.
...I'm seeing no overall patterns either for relevance or quality... and again, no consistency throughout a search to suggest reasons for rankings. It's as though in different markets and different spots on a serp, different conditions trigger entirely different algos...
Thanks, they were singular and plural forms of my trophy KW that were generated by an SEO Plugin. I really don't know if that was the problem, but felt compelled because it was over-optimization, and a blatantly obvious SEO tactic. All my internal linking will now be done manually with some careful thought.
I do however suspect that it was an indexing thing because G is giving far to much weight to my homepage. It is returning the homepage for the SERP ranking for many KWs, rather than the actual individual page. The pages are still indexed, I think G is still sorting itself out.
"I've been frustrated in my searches with google and find myself using tighter and tigher parameters, or using a metasearch engine or bing."
"I'm not trying to jump on the me too train, but when doing searches, the pages that show up set me back a bit as it never seems to be what I am looking for."
"I also noticed that my HP is ranking for new entries that I write in my blog and not the article itself."
@vandread: As detailed in my post on June 9th here [webmasterworld.com], one of the symptoms we are seeing both now, and also with Florida, is pages that are simply LINKING to relevant pages (like affiliate pages), coming-up higher than the relevant pages themselves!
I would be hesitant to edit your linkage right now, for given Google's current state, rather than getting it to switch to your relevant interior pages, it is quite likely you will simply loose your rankings for those specific searches.
"Am assuming that the algo is trying to get rid of a certain kind of content by ignoring normal relevance signals and looking for others."
"Suppose that the algo is first filtering sparsely worded content too deeply..."
"A Clara personal page is first for keywords
Holiday + destinationkeyword
This page has only 10 lines and tells hows they enjoyed
their holiday a few years ago.
Yes well done Google its relative bloody useless for those looking for a holiday :)
I was worried when i first saw this update now I can't stop laughing because their is so much crap ranking well."
"a pile of irrelevant trash that was before now buried below 5 pages of decent SERPS."
"but I'm fairly sure it's what they're doing for queries with very few results that they deem useful."
I think they have a huge backlog of crawled pages to process.
The economy doesn't shut down the same time as a G "update" ;)
If I ask for "X" and it gives me "Y", but then I ask for "Y" and it switches to "X", that is clearly not ignoring that relevancy signal, it is using it to EVADE.
[edited by: tedster at 12:04 pm (utc) on Jun 15, 2010]