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Personalized Search Now Default

SEO and Privacy forever changed

         

incrediBILL

12:16 am on Dec 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Google Blog [googleblog.blogspot.com]
Today we're helping people get better search results by extending Personalized Search to signed-out users worldwide

That's a staggering statement meaning that every computer accessing Google is now being personalized, signed in or not, so any desktop, laptop or kiosk will start tracking everything everyone does and you won't be able to access the same search results from any two machines.

The possible impact to all is staggering.

lexipixel

3:34 pm on Dec 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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If you're using Firefox, chances are it automatically searches Google from the address bar if you type in some words that aren't a web address. (I read it uses Google's "I feel lucky" result).

Google may be even more tightly integrated into your copy of Firefox -- to see what it's connected to:

- open a new tab or window

- enter about:config in the address bar

- click the [I'll be careful, I promise!] button

- enter goog in the filter box

- close the tab or window, (I will not be responsible if you go further).

To de-worm FF, find a search engine and look up something like "firefox config search address bar".

albo

3:58 pm on Dec 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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(Has GOOG become the Exxon/Esso of search?)

While one may admit, many folks use GoOgle for commercial searches (e.g., "blue widgets"), sometimes folks search for knowledge (e.g., "who *invented* the "blue widget"?) Imagine that.

So with a record of predominantly commercial searches, will they inevitably have to dredge through screens and screens of commercial guff before they get to "knowledge"?

Perhaps the average Jane or Joe (a valid computer user) doesn't know how, properly, to phrase a search. Should his or her lack of skill result in punishment? Not necessarily, I think.

These might be folks who would object, were they to know the tracking is happening: folks who watch 60 minutes, see that crooks run rampant behind the scenes in various places, and ask, "Why doesn't somebody catch them and do something?"

I know some of these folks, who indeed are scared (as they should be) to upload email contact information to gmail. And I will now tell them they should also have added care/fear of GoOgle search.

Reno

4:18 pm on Dec 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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belenenses... It is not my position that Google is leading the charge into a New World Order, where the freedom of the individual will be severely subserviant to the power of the (World) state. I am simply saying that in their ramping UP of data collection, they make a significant contribution to the personal profiles being created for each and every one of us. They are ONE problem, not THE problem. The data in each of those profiles is almost certainly coming from many directions -- credit card purchases; credit rating agencies; online book purchases; court records; phone numbers dialed; etc etc. All that stuff we know about -- now you can add Google's search history to the list.

Only the guilty have anything to worry by this.

Only the guilty have anything to worry about if the police were demand a strip search; only the guilty have anything to worry about if the authorities come to your workplace and ask questions about you to your co-workers; only the quilty should refuse a lie detector test; only the guilty should require a warrant before allowing a house search. Sorry, democracy is built on the presumption of innocence, not guilt. It is not the occasional surveillance camera I reference -- it is their exponential proliferation, along with RFID chips, the highly sophisticated deep data collection, and the rest. The trajectory of history is clear, and I'm sorry to say that as time moves forward, Orwell is getting closer to it than I'd want to have to admit. As I said, thankfully we are not there YET, but the Patriot Act alone makes it just a shot away...

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driller41

4:38 pm on Dec 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Are we talking about showing personalised searches for terms within a Niche - this is bad.

Or are we talking about personalised searches across a keyword - which is what the two google people were talking about in the introductory video posted on page 1 of this post - this is not quite as bad I think.

lexipixel

4:48 pm on Dec 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Has GOOG become the Exxon/Esso of search?
-albo

It is not my position that Google is leading the charge into a New World Order, where the freedom of the individual will be severely subserviant to the power of the (World) state.
-Reno

You could be closer than you think -- most greedy corporate stories are close to the Standard Oil business model... and Eric Schmidt was at Bilderberg.

Are we talking about showing personalised searches for terms within a Niche - this is bad.
-driller41

No, we are talking about Google knowing what brand of toilet paper you use, and when you are due to shop for some more.

Grockle

4:50 pm on Dec 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Don't know if this means anything or is just a user hoop to jump through, but I just went to check out Web History and couldn't.

I'm UK based, the first thing I had to do was sign in again although already signed in to search and mail and then it refused to let me go any further until I downloaded and installed Google Toolbar and enabled Pagerank.

engine

4:52 pm on Dec 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Do you remember direct hit? It failed because it was spammed. People knew about how it worked and it was all too easy to manipulate.

The difference here is that the vote is on a local machine, and that's much harder to manipulate from outside (assuming it's not been hacked or has a trojan/adware).

Google manipulating the data served is one thing, but, not giving average joe user the option to opt in is not good imho. It's poorly thought through as to the long term consequences.

It's great to have more relevent SERPs, I applaud that, however, why would I want SERPs reflecting my previous search. I'm done with that, I've moved on. Give me the option to go back to get all the SERPs, then to be able to hone it.

It's all too smart for it's own good, imho.

blend27

4:53 pm on Dec 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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driller, we are talking about an introductory video to none existance of: yours and my and everybody elses privacy due to wishes, careful planning(goolaid) and future finacial gains by the monster called Gorg(formaly Google).

dertyfern

5:00 pm on Dec 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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It's great to have more relevent SERPs, I applaud that, however, why would I want SERPs reflecting my previous search. I'm done with that, I've moved on.

Because we tend to repeat ourselves and act in fairly predictable ways and as they say in the ad biz, frequency sells so the more you're exposed to an ad the more likely you'll buy.

Is personalized search just serving up results based on your past or using your history to predict what you may want next? Or both?

aakk9999

5:07 pm on Dec 7, 2009 (gmt 0)

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Lol, I am waiting for the day you search for "bricks" to be told by G. "we have also included some 'mortar' results as you will be needing these too.
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