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who cares if the anchor text is "Click here!". Your going to rank for title keywords without one inbound anchor text!
And I have exactly the opposite happening. I have several years worth of links with the anchor text (my site name).
It's not like they appeared all at once. A few months ago the homepage started to be filtered out for the most common (and key) word. The page still does well on all data centers but gets pushed way down on in the serps on Google.com.
Site is #3 on ALL DCs for a very competitive phrase, but nowhere on www.google.com.
Yes, yes! The difference is this has been going on for some time for me and now it seems to be happening to more of you.
nobody else in my page 1-2 SERPs is having these probs
Me either, at least not with the sites that were in the top 10. There has been shifting but nothing as drastic as my situation.
"minus something" penalty back to bite us?
Sort if like the -950 except in this case the google.com result has been jumping all over from around -100 to not there are all..
Another strange thing is if I set it for 100 results then Google shows a far lesser page with few links at around -20 with the far higher PR and well linked homepage indented below the lesser page from the same site. It's definitely a filter of some sort.
most of us have one thing in common.......fairly new sites...am I right?
My problem is with a site that is over 10 years old.
I'm taking the stance that I will no longer worry about google.
I keep telling myself I should do that. My site has a great long tail and the one search term doesn't make that much difference. But it just bugs the heck out of me! It seems like I should be able to figure out what odd thing about my site is causing the problem.
[edited by: tedster at 8:26 am (utc) on Feb. 1, 2008]
I understand, I see this also…, it looks like a rollback to 12 months or even a few more to me. But I have seen this happen before. It does not happen often, but I have seen it and this is one of the things that seems to ding new sites.
Why does Google do this? I have no clue.
The good news is, you should not worry about it. This will roll back out to the “normal” results and as long as your site is still clean, you should be fine.
So, my 2 cents?
Don’t do anything different then what you were doing before.
I hope this helps.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't your site/KW in a very competitive (+/-500,000,000 serps results) widgeting category?
I only mention this as I think it may add relevance to your issue as compared to other people’s issues.
But you may be right that this situation I'm dealing with doesn't fit here. I just keep hoping to see the pattern in other people's experience in hopes it will help me solve my problem.
It seems like I should be able to figure out what odd thing about my site is causing the problem.
Sounds like something which needs a fresh set of eyes.
I had a forum member here find something in my website, when I felt I had exhausted all avenues. Sometimes you get caught up in your own assessment of your website and overlook the completely obvious.
In my case, this particular observation helped in a very significant way.
Site is #3 on ALL DCs for a very competitive phrase, but nowhere on www.google.com.
Yes, yes! The difference is this has been going on for some time for me and now it seems to be happening to more of you.
Started happening only this week. Actually, 7 days ago I found my site at #811. Yesterday, I found it at #428. Looks exactly like what happened to my site about 9-12 months ago.
Since the 'rollback' to fix #6 glitch my site dissapeared back to the sandbox but still shows up well on all the other DCs. It is obvious to me that G is either literally showing data from 6 months ago or has discounted all links with less than 6 months of age.
We remain at #2 and #1 this week, but had dropped slightly to #3 the week prior. They haven't done any rollback to ancient data. They certainly rolled something out though, because we have been all over the place on individual datacenters early this week.
Our site is just over 1 year old. We have an excellent variety of links (over 20K in Y! - all types, all natural, including links from white-listed sites) and an excellent internal link structure. We usually have about 10 single keywords and 30 to 40 double keyword phrases that are #1 to #5 for a very competitive broad market with big players.
For the last 9 months we've been seeing 5k to 10K uniques per day from Google. On the 30th, about 70% of our top performing keywords that were ranking #1 to #5, slid to #11 to #20 (many to 15+)..., another 20% just disappeared, and 10% stayed where they were and are still ranking fine. But now we're only seeing 2K uniques from Google.
ALSO, about 10 days ago we changed a large portion of unique content that was provided through a feed, adding even more content per page (on about 150K pages) - but none of these pages that were changed were our high ranking pages, they contain local unique info that was added to.
While this is definitely hurting the pocketbook, it's the weirdest set of results I've ever seen for this site - usually it's either all in or all out? Granted, I did have a negative run-in with Diggers a few days ago on another site (that referred to this affected site as mine), but I find it hard to accept they could have done this?
Any ideas? Am I just freaking out? Should I wait a few more days for the dust to settle before taking action?
Anyone else seeing this change back?
Sounds like something which needs a fresh set of eyes.
If anyone is willing to be fresh eyes just sticky me.
I am convinced mine is related to a filter but not sure if it's related to the present turbulence.
It seems to be showing unique results compared to the different datacenters out there.
[edited by: tedster at 1:51 am (utc) on Feb. 2, 2008]
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Google has discounted all links with less than 6 months of age.
Exactly! but from what I see. They have removed those links. They are no longer in WMT yet they are still on those sites.
Has any one noticed this datacenter at ip [64.233.189.107...]
EEK.. it's not even showing our page descriptions, just snippets from the page. Same number or pages found for search of our site though.[edited by: Bewenched at 8:01 am (utc) on Feb. 2, 2008]
1. Biggest fluctuations are in sites with brand new domain names registered within the last 3-6 months.
2. Revamped sites that I go white hat with (inbound links with keyword anchor text, keyword-rich but proper length title tags) seem to be doing fine.
Out of dozens of sites, I'm seeing significant fluctuations with only a single established one, the bigger changes are with sites launched 4-5 months ago. One client hasn't noticed it, the other is flipping out.
Also, and I am not suggesting that you are... but one of the side effects of spoofing Google PR is having the page of the targeted spoof show up as the cache page.
I have just noticed in google site map tool that the number of indexed pages of my sites are around 30% less from two day ago. Has any one seeing this too?
[edited by: tedster at 11:28 pm (utc) on Feb. 5, 2008]
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