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Any thoughts on this? Up until recently, my site did not rank in the top 1000 in Google for my main search term. I did a bit of research, made a lot of changes, bought some software to help even. Since then it had a dramatic increase in placement. In the space of around two months it moved up to place 19.
I have not made any changes in last 4 weeks, but it has still been climbing......until yesterday. It has now dropped out of the top 1000 again. The site still ranks for other words and has not been dumped all together.
I am feeling a bit confused. Could any one offer advice please?
[edited by: tedster at 6:18 pm (utc) on Dec. 3, 2007]
See my post at [webmasterworld.com...] for a detailed description of what happened to us - can you glean anything from that?
Do you see other similarities.
(and I don't think removing 5 sites' worth of links would make that drastic of a SERPs change for you - unless you had like 10 links total pointing back to your site.)
We have had the same one theme for the past 5 years. We haven't made any changes to our site recently either. Were you using blog posting software like rss2blog and have you been adding a lot of links lately. If so, what was the ratio of high quality links to low quality links that you have been added. We are trying to wrap our heads around this.
Also, we have no AdSense on this site and no sub-directories.
We are not. A lot of our links come from bloggers which could be the culprit. Someone using rss2blog or similar software in a blackhat way would have been penalized. This would give us an clue as to whether google is analyzing the ratio of lower quality blog links to higher authority links.
As I've indicated in the past couple SERPs changes threads, the keywords I watch continue to remain incredibly stable. The crazy dips and dancing that were observed throughout July and September haven't shown any signs of returning yet.
My employer has also almost returned to the number two position in our money keyword, a position we had held until that crazy period where we almost fell completely off the first page. This is not because of algorithm changes, though... just plain old link building.
Last year showed us some heavy movement in the SERP’s during this time.
For the past 48 hours I am see very little bot activity, which for me in the past has preceded changes (as resources are being used elsewhere, I assume).
I may make some changes this time, but nothing major. I'm just going to wait it out.
added in edit: I use no artificial means to gain links, only naturally occuring. Neither do I use any aggressive SEO, none at all really for over two years.
[edited by: OnlyToday at 6:15 pm (utc) on Dec. 22, 2007]
I know of one site that got hit about a week ago, and it seems to be a home page, "big search term" thing, with internal specific product pages still collecting their usual long-tail traffic. Also this is a well branded business (began 1950s, online 1996) and the company name is a major search term - but the home page just dropped to page 4 for their own name - no obvious guidelines violations that I know of. It seems like some of the other reports in this thread [webmasterworld.com] are talking about something similar.
So any observations about the actual SERPs, rather than only the traffic in general?
I cross linked them extensively on Nov. 17--about the right time for a penalty to hit, so I have uncross-linked them just now, it was very easy, the menus are ss includes. So now I've just got to wait and keep my fingers crossed.
[edited by: OnlyToday at 7:34 pm (utc) on Dec. 22, 2007]
I know of one site that got hit about a week ago, and it seems to be a home page, "big search term" thing,
I seen similar for a client - "big search term(s)."
But to be quite honest, it looks like a -5 penalty (lol is there such a thing?) ie several #1 are now all exactly #6 for home page's "big search terms"
Also occuring at above noted times.
But to be quite honest, it looks like a -5 penalty (lol is there such a thing?)
I've also recently observed an unexpected -5 jump, to #6... not the home page, but an internal page that has some external inbounds going to it.
To think out loud about whether a -5 exists, chances are that enough of us have seen a drop for any specific number of places that we could create a number of minus-n "penalties" or filters. Any -3 drops, for example?
That said, I was struck by the drop when it happened, about Dec 12 or so in this case. Originally, it was a -4, and, in the past week or so, it's become a -5. Normally this page hadn't moved in big chunks like this. It had moved up slowly over the years to #1, where it had been extremely stable for a long time.
I'd initially attributed the move to more competition in the area and to competitors simply moving up, not to a demotion of our page.
In September, we helped them release an entirely new website, and their ranking for this money keyword jumped up from #9 to #2. It stayed at #2 all through October and November. Beginning around Dec 10, this ranking began flickering back and forth between position #2 and #8 (for same Google IP address) - and staying on each position for around three days at a time, then shifting back up or down again.
The second money keyword (it's an exact synonym) went from #5 to #3 with the new website, and it has stayed constant at #3 right on through all the jumping around for the other word.