Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
64.233.161.107
64.233.161.147
64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
216.239.37.99
216.239.39.99
216.239.59.99
72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104
72.14.207.107
64.233.167.99
64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
64.233.167.104
216.239.39.104
216.239.59.104
64.233.179.107
72.14.207.107
216.239.39.107
216.239.59.107
216.239.59.147
64.233.167.147
And am experiencing major happiness. Some of these these results were visible on five DCs on and off for the last week. It now appears to be spreading and on some DCs I am experiencing a small additional boost.
I for one hope this sticks.
I believe it might be time to scrap DC watching. Look at the new results on search.aol.com, search.comcast.net, search.netscape.com, search.icq.com, search.att.net, and whatever other Google search network affiliate you can think of. The results are showing across Google's search network affiliates and only at times randomly popping in/out on Google.com defaults(whatever ip you get assigned).
Check those affiliates and see if your sites rank better than any of those DC's your watching. I think DC watching is starting to become a fruitless endeavour as the DC's don't seem to be displaying the new set of mystery SERP's.
Note to Tabke....What are you going to call this update? :>~
Look at the new results on search.aol.com, search.comcast.net, search.netscape.com, search.icq.com, search.att.net, and whatever other Google search network affiliate you can think of. The results are showing across Google's search network affiliates and only at times randomly popping in/out on Google.com defaults(whatever ip you get assigned).
This is interesting: For my most competitive keyword I am showing enhanced listings three to five spots above the top data center results in those Google affiliates.
Oh happy day indeed.
PS: I noticed that the Google Directory is now making an apperance in the serps (41) for my most competitive keyword. This is new. ODP was being listed (22)in some datacenters, but those listings have dropped (43).
Just to thank you for re-starting this thread again. Specially through these days where everything is expected to happen, we really need to keep our eyes opened and watch those DCs.
Personally, I'm paying much attention at the moment to this "test" DC
72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104
Wish you all a great day.
Personally, I'm paying much attention at the moment to this "test" DC72.14.207.99
72.14.207.104
I would be delighted if those results propogated around all of the DCs but...
Looking at the top 20, (2 pages), for a few of the terms I watch there are a number of my competitors that I would expect to see that are not there.
Are the experimental tweaks about removing spam I wonder. One page that has been at #1 for a year or so for a competitive term seems to have dropped from the index. The only outbound link on that page is to a SEO site. Could this mean that SEO firms that insist on having a link back to their site from the home page of sites they are working on will have to change their ways.
One indicator that I would use to confirm the topical relevance of a page is the topic of the external pages that link to it and the topic of the pages that it links to. If Google is looking at this and sensing the topical relevance of interconnecting pages then it would be easy to have a set of topics that resulted in a penalty. A link to an SEO service provider from a page not on the topic of SEO is an obvious target.
Sid
It is frustrating, but im hoping this aborted update will be back quite soon.
Google needs stability, like the old days, when you could go months without worrying about your placement.
In every sector I watch they were almost 100% clean of spam, (apart from some blogspammer), and they were very relevant to the queries. It seemed as if Google was again prioritising authority sites in those results, I think this is what is needed to clean up the index.
"However if you replace www.google.co.uk in the search string with 66.249.93.104 you get dramatically different SERPs.
This applies regardless of the DC being used for the cache. Any ideas why? "
I had noticed something similar recently, and asked. Few kind fellow members posted some clarification here.
Google Data Centers Watch 2006-04-25
[webmasterworld.com...]
For people seeing some datacntres that have a larger number of pages indexed for their sites, those are mostly datacentres showing the older mainstream "BigDaddy" results, and there are two versions of those out there too.
[edited by: g1smd at 9:03 pm (utc) on May 9, 2006]
Yet again, I see many examples where the new words in the snippet do not match what is in the older cache. Data for indexing and ranking, and for displaying the snippet, and for showing the cached page all come from separate databases that are not updated at the same time, and are not in step.
.
On that telephone number search for a number that has been removed from every page of the internet where it was previously published I see several trends.
The BigDaddy "A" and "B" results show 15 supplemental results with ancient cached data for pages that have been 404 for many months or a year, or have had their content altered several times since indexing.
The "experimental" results show 900 entries that are not an exact match for the search query. The "cleanup" datacentres return zero results - and that is the correct result for that search.
For a laugh, I added the telephone number back on to one page 2 nights ago. This is an unrelated page on an unrelated site. Google spidered the page within a few hours. The telephone number now appears in the snippet for that page in the "experimental" results and the page ranks well for that term. In the "cleanup" results that page is the only result returned (and that is correct). Both SERPs have a fresh date of May 8th, but point to a cache dated May 2nd that does not contain the phone number (as it is 4 days before the page was edited).
The BigDaddy "A" and "B" results do not show the page anywhere in their SERPs. The SERPs return the same 15 results as they have done for the past 6 months. I think that those results are not being updated by Google, and will be phased out soon.
Ellio
"However if you replace www.google.co.uk in the search string with 66.249.93.104 you get dramatically different SERPs.
This applies regardless of the DC being used for the cache. Any ideas why? "I had noticed something similar recently, and asked. Few kind fellow members posted some clarification here.
Google Data Centers Watch 2006-04-25
[webmasterworld.com...]
Reseller, yes I read that thread at the time and agree with the idea of virtual DC's however in this case I think its something different.
It would appear that results from google.co.uk (or similar other country) are filtered in a different way than can be replicated by replacing google.co.uk with a DC IP address. Even if the DC producing the results is definately the one being used by Google.co.uk.
I have noticed this for some time but only recently spent time looking into it. I find it interesting as we feature even higher in the SERPs when the google.co.uk bit is replaced by the DC IP address. The rest of the search string is identical including the country filters etc. I just cannot figure why.
Another interesting factor is that standard "pages from the UK" search strings include something like this:
&cr=countryUK¦countryGB
1. Why the two countries - UK & GB (sameplace!)
2. Why massivley improved SERPs if the ¦countryGB is removed leaving only &cr=countryUK.
This must have some relevance. Admittedly to non US users.
I now only see 11 datacenters that have these results:
64.233.171.99
64.233.171.104
64.233.171.107
64.233.171.147
64.233.179.99
64.233.179.104
64.233.185.99
64.233.185.104
64.233.187.99
64.233.187.104
64.233.179.107
Either these will start spreading again, or they will disapear. I still holding out hope, that these results will spread again, as these are the best results I have seen in three years.
Either these will start spreading again, or they will disapear. I still holding out hope, that these results will spread again, as these are the best results I have seen in three years.
I'm also convinced these will spread, or something very similar to these results will spread.
My cappuccino drinking DC of the day is:
64.233.187.104