PR update started - Part I

a couple of DCs showing PR update

[selomelo]

My newly registered site shows PR in a couple of DCs.
For example,

216.239.53.104
216.239.53.99
while in some others I see a rollback.

[koen]

And the PR I said was there for 2 of my websites is now gone on the toolbar. Back to no PR.

[Dayo_UK]

zeus

Using that tool - the live part for your hijacked site - are the PR7 results on the BD Dcs?

The top 3 are the named Big Daddy DC from Matt. Although others are also Big Daddy - but top 3 definetely.

This is what has happened to my problem site - on the Big Daddy DCs PR is back (well RK anyway) according to that tool.

[kartiksh]

new PR is visible now via google toolbar here in India.

[SpanishWeb]

If you are using Google toolbar v4.x
Go to SETTINGs > Options > "Search box settings"
Change the "use google site:" to UK (for example)

You will see a different pagerank!

[Wizard]

live PR check tool which displays current and future prediction of PR for particular site from different datacenter

And I suppose it's results are totally unreliable. My sites shown extremely high PR in such tools, while normal toolbar shows no changes for any one on all datacenters.

[Dayo_UK]

Wizard

The tool shows <rk> values from the xml file from each DCs - whether it can definetly be said to be PR is the question - if it is not PR it maybe even more important. :)

(Although I am sure(ish) it is PR ;) - with Big Daddy it looks like the RK calculation is significantly different)

So this tool is not a predicitor - it is showing what is there.

In the Google xml documentation they call the <rk> tag:-

"a general rating of the relevance of the search result" in the format "Text (Integer in the range 0-10)"

although it says relevance of the search result the <rk> value does not change on search result, eg independent of the search result - so rating of the relevance of the search result - but relevant to what - not the search result - the web perhaps? eg perhaps PR.

You have probably seen the discussion here:-

[webmasterworld.com...]

Anyway - going back to the pr update that is in question at the moment - looks to me that it has hit a lot more DCs.

[kartiksh]

Its gone now. Back to old PR.

[zeus]

Hello Dayo - Yes the PR7 is on the BD Datbase, for a site that got PR6 it says 0PR in the BD results, Im not woried yet, but it looks a little wierd.

In a way I think the top 3 is what we have to go after on that the PR6 is a n/a, that maybe means its not finished with calculation or there is a problem.

[edited by: zeus at 12:11 pm (utc) on Feb. 22, 2006]

[Dayo_UK]

>>>>Yes the PR7 is on the BD Datbase

And this has been a PR0 for ages - any ranking improvements on Big Daddy?

The site that is showing as a PR0 - can you sticky it to me?If you dont want to share the url though - fair enough.

Ahh - I see your edit - the n/a is because it can not find the page in the way it anaylisis the results - I have a page that shows a N/A but the <rk>/pr is in fact a 4 in Big Daddy.

[edited by: Dayo_UK at 12:18 pm (utc) on Feb. 22, 2006]

[rkhare]

new PR is visible now via google toolbar here in India.

kartik, yet to see new PR on my toolbar

[zeus]

Dayo I keep my url, about rankings hmm non yet on BD, still I could not imaging that my in BD PR should be a PR0 so I think the PR will come later. As I remember you also had a site that was in googlebug 302 hell hows it going with that.

[Dayo_UK]

In Big Daddy - if those future PR - <rk> tag is beleived to be correct then page rank is returning to the site - and filtering through the site - eg links from homepage getting PR.

No rankings yet* and not crawling very deep though.

* Although homepage can rank for "My Unique Company Name Limited" in the 30s-40s - previously an internal page used to rank last of all results - eg 800+

[zeus]

Damn this is a little scary, I just typed [mydomain...] . com then I got a PR7 in BD, I dont hope that this now gets hammered because google cant index a site. If I go to that 216.239.51.104 it does not have the non www in the index only www. comes so thats good.

[Dayo_UK]

This is for the PR7 site on the www I guess?

If Google is working correctly though by you typing [mydomain...] it should be returning the results of [mydomain....] In other words a request for the non-www should return the www results (assuming that it the way you are redirecting etc)

It is when you get different pr figures for the 2 that problems may arise.

[otech]

I am seeing PR visible on 2 new sites, but on my existing sites its still the same (though this may be because it hasnt changed ;-)...

Visible as in can see it on the toolbar with no hosts mods or anything from Australia.

[indias next no1]

hi friends,
one of my site increased from PR3 to PR4. Another website having the same PR4 and no change, but the backlink of one of my site decreased from 262 to 198, whether this will affect the SERPs and decrease in visitor from google? any idea please

[nfinland]

Should I be worried? Index page went to PR 0 (Toolbar), but other pages still PR 5...

[afterburner]

I think something is happening. I did see PR4 for my site an hour ago, now it is back to PR0

[lgn1]

I believe their are 60 or 70 google datacenters, and from what I can tell, about half of them have updated the toolbar, using the various PR tools.

Another thing of interest. Would using these PR checking tools to check your PR, be against Googles TOS, just like automatic rank checkers?

[selomelo]

Another thing of interest. Would using these PR checking tools to check your PR, be against Googles TOS, just like automatic rank checkers?

IMHO, there is nothing that can be done about it other than actively blocking such queries, or banning the originating (tool) sites. Otherwise, it would be a powerful tool in the hands of your competitors! checking your site hundreds of times a day.:)

[JoeHouse]

Hi Guys

I have not seen any PR change on my site. When do you expect google to get to all of them?

I am not seeing what everybody else is seeing.

Future Pagerank says my site will go from a 4 to a 6. I realize these tools are not very reliable but this one is supposed to be more accurate than the others. Was hoping something positive would happen soon.

Please Advise.

Thanks!

[Adfuel]

I modified my PR tool at <snip> to highlight the datacenters that are showing new PR. I think this will make it a little easier to see where your site is going if your PR is all over the place.

Let me know what you think.

[edited by: engine at 5:31 pm (utc) on Feb. 22, 2006]
[edit reason] No tool drops, thanks [/edit]

[Dayo_UK]

Hmmz

Did not realize that Webmasterworld had split homepage PR on this update.

Some DCs are showing webmasterworld.com as PR5 while www.webmasterworld.com is PR7 accross the dcs. Also BL showing different for the non-www and the www on the updated DCs.

Canonical problems still plague the current Google infastructure then :/

[zeus]

I noticed a site in my category which is at the top everywhere after we got hijacked, but on PR basis they show PR0 now and PR0 on the new rank all the way down, so is this relayable well I dont know.

[hwy2hel]

Strange thing is happening to my site (I hope it's just a side-effect of the update). My PR has been jumping from regular 5 to 2 and then back to 5 again quite a few times within last few days. My positioning (thankfully!) has not been effected. However, when I type in the URL into the G Search Box (where you expect to see "similar sites, sites that link", etc.), I get:

"Sorry, no information is available for the URL <my URL>.
If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the following link: driversed.com
Find web pages from the site driversed.com
Find web pages that contain the term "driversed.com"

So an updated glitch? Is anyone having similar issues?

[otech]

hwy2hel,

the PR update would have happened a while ago, its just its visibility on the toolbar thats being updated at present so don't sweat your positioning wont be effected, it would have been already.

[rkhare]

finally i am seeing it happen here in India on my google tool bar, though not in my favour :-( and as I earlier reported my new pages got PR3 and most of old one remains at PR2, url still at PR4.

and worst is that my newly acquired domain that came to me with PR3 is now PR0 despite of having few PR5 links :-(

[wheelie34]

I think its still a rollback, I have one site that keeps going back to PR0 which is where it was towards the end of last year, it got a 4 when it was first awarded PR, when the site shows PR0 I do site: and get low results, then within hours the site is back to PR4 and the site command gets 95% of the pages, the same as it was last year.

Im checking this from the UK so still think BD and PR update are not finished.

And I am still in the kitty litter :((

[texasville]

I agree. Nothing more than rolling back and forth. Same old thing that has been going on for weeks.

[phish]

DayoUk

I agree...
This so called "new infrastructure" still cannot figure out redirects, canonicals etc.. This will be an issue with Google for a long time the way I see it.