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while in some others I see a rollback.
i'm still a bit confused about the whole thing... when i run <snip>, my Toolbar PR is 2 on some DC's 5 on others. Thelive PR is 5 (7 on most). So for what reason the Toolbar PR doesn't reflect the Live PR? Live is the accurate one am I correct?
Thanks again,
v ;)
[edited by: lawman at 12:16 am (utc) on Feb. 23, 2006]
[edit reason] No Tool Drops Please [/edit]
New sites I have up since Jan 15/06 have new pr as well as pages. One check at Mcdar will show anyone that.
When you mention pr bouncing back to 0 it is because some DC's for whatever reason are showing pr amounts, some are showing current and some are shoing 3 week old.
Needless to say, there are new servers showing new pr values, for what it's really worth...
No homepage PR change as of yet.
Does this mean google is not finished? Why some pages and not all at the same time, including the Homepage.
While they were in there why not do it all at one time?
How does this all work?
thanks in advance. :)
For "new" sites: ( a site launched during mid Jan.)
In all DCs with lower value I checked, I see BD results.
In all DCS with higher value I checked, I see non-BD results.
Just the opposite is true for "old" sites: (a site launched in early 2005)
In all DCs with Higher value I checked, I see BD results.
In oll DCS with lower value I checked, I see non-BD results.
So we have an equation:
BD <RK> = lower values for new sites.
BD <RK> = higher values for old sites.
Therefore, I do not know how, but the "age" factor seems to play a role here.
I have not seen any PR change on my site. When do you expect google to get to all of them?
Some of my sites have new PR on homepages. Some newly added pages started to show PR. So apparently there is tPR export now. But I'm surprised that one site of mine has still PR3 on homepage, while it has several PR5 edu backlinks and many PR3 and PR4 links from many other sites. I expected it to go to higher PR even on previous update :)
Also, I saw a backlink update today...
There are two PR values. One is Toolbar PR and the other is Live PR. First of all, live PR is the one which updates the PR value continuously. Toolbar PR is the snapshot of Live PR value taken at some point of time and displays the same until the next PR update occurs.
"Live PR is the accurate one".
i.e Toolbar PR refreshes everytime PR update occurs. Meanwhile the Live PR value calculation will be going on.
If your toolbar PR is 5 and Live PR is 7, then the Toolbar PR may show a PR of 7 after update.
DanMoore
>My live pr shows 6 or 5 depending on the dc, but my toolbar pr says a drop from pr4 to pr3 on certain dcs...
If PR 4/ PR 3 is your live PR then the toolbar PR may show PR 4/ PR 3 after update.
What can be confirmed is that a BL update has taken place and seems to have settled.
What cannot be confirmed is that a PR update has taken place, as the PR of sites is jumping all over the place. It is all well and good looking at Future PR and saying there has been a PR update, and it is all well and good saying 'my site jumped to PR 7' only to see it drop five minutes later. The reality is that until PR settles down, which may not be for another 3 weeks or so, nobody can say there has been a PR update.
That was my assumption as well but nobody answered it above?
Can someone answer that for us? If we have new sites that are starting to get PR does this mean we are coming out of the sandbox or might we be stuck in the sandbox for several more months?
Thanx
[edited by: afterburner at 3:12 pm (utc) on Feb. 24, 2006]
I have a site with a pr3, that has had a page rank of 3 for 6 months. I am approaching the 12month point with a predicted pr5 and I am still in the sandbox.
On another note, I found that LivePR is inaccurate, if you have several sister domains that are 301 to one master domain. The LivePR will show the diluted pagerank in this case, and your actual Toolbar PR will be higher.
Does this mean Google switches the DB that I am seeing early every morning?
I assume PR is resetting to the previous ranking part of the time for some reason. Sure hope it settles back to what it was since about WED FEB 15.
Does this mean Google switches the DB that I am seeing early every morning?
That's what I assume -- different data centers, not real changes in your PR.
For me, PR changed about FEB-10 or so and has been reflected in SERP's ever since then.
On about FEB-15 the Google Toolbar started showing new PR which was about the rank what you would expect from the SERP's I was getting since FEB-10.
Today I notice PR has dropped to the previous level but SERP's are unchanged.
However, dunno if this means PR is unchanged OR if it means PR will eventually settle to old levels and the past 10 days or so were an anomoly.
... but SERP's are unchanged
If anyone had doubt that there's a different data source for search results and toolbar PR it should be perfectly clear now. I'm even seeing pages that don't show in the site: command that are getting hits from Google search results.
Actually I just noticed PR is back to what it has been for the past 10 days or so, so what I noticed was some temporary variation, perhaps caused by a datacentre switch.
As links in were also unchanged with the PR change what it seems is that the PR db is a "calculation db" taking its input from the main index but crunching the numbers into PR (the results of which presumably eventually finds its way back to the main index in some form).
