PR update started - Part I

a couple of DCs showing PR update

[selomelo]

My newly registered site shows PR in a couple of DCs.
For example,

216.239.53.104
216.239.53.99
while in some others I see a rollback.

[McMohan]

After checking a couple of sites, I am getting an impression this update is only for new pages and for the rest it is just a rollback. Just my feeling and needn't be true. Else, I can't explain MC Blog's zero PR.

[grant]

What I am seeing is one of newer my sites has higher PR on secondary pages than the homepage, and there are only two links to the site, both to the homepage. I find this odd.

[sierra11b]

One of my news sites that's been around for about 5-6 months finally picked up some PR tonight.

[Smashing Young Man]

One of my sites which is a month and half old has gone from PR0 to PR5 with this update on a few of the datacenters. Not bad, I guess.

[followgreg]

I definetely can not understand why a 4/5 months old site got no PR with a pretty good mostly natural link popularity while a PR4 seems to be assigned to another one with 10 or 12 artificial PR0 backlinks...

Now mattcutts' blog with PR0 that is funny and a little stupid :) though some DC show a rollback instead of an update.
But it would be fun if Matt would be caught by Google's attempt to fool webmasters relying on PR.
By the way, why no sandbox for his blog? (sorry matt, I don't care really just teasing around)

EDIT: Hey, it seems like no updated DC can be found anymore, only rolled back value - Something went wrong or what? I am not sure if this makes a lot of sense to me :)

[steveb]

"I can't explain MC Blog's zero PR"

It's PR7

[Dayo_UK]

Yes,

At the moment though we have old PR on some DCs, current PR on some DCs - and Future PR on some DCs - which is a bit weird.

Also this future PR matches what was happening on the XML query as discussed in another thread for the non-bd dcs of a week or so ago. (Although those XML queries have moved on since then - so a Data export of about Steveb suggested time might be about right)

However! The BD DCs are showing yet another set of <rk> PR? values that are not displayed anywhere yet.

[Wizard]

Right now I see only the rollbacks for all my sites I've checked.

[McMohan]

At the moment though we have old PR on some DCs, current PR on some DCs - and Future PR on some DCs

Dayo, thats more likey whats happening right now, though I don't have any example of a page that shows 3 different PRs.

[jacquex]

"I can't explain MC Blog's zero PR"

It's PR7

It's 0 on these DCs:

216.239.37.99
216.239.37.104
216.239.39.99
216.239.39.104
64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104

[robzilla]

It's an update, but the data looks quite old. I can't find any page newer than January 20th that has any PR.

[colin_h]

I am showing a PR update for the following DC's:

216.239.57.99
216.239.57.104
216.239.53.99
216.239.53.104

Definately NOT a backdate, as I only built the site about a month ago.

[selomelo]

I don't have any example of a page that shows 3 different PRs.

For one of my sites:
PR3 before September last year.
PR4 after Saga and Jagger
PR5 with this update.

Right now, I am seeing all these 3 PRs, in different DCs. Therefore, looking at DCs, I am able to say which one is a rollback, no-change, or an update.

For example, right now:
Rollback: 64.233.161.104
No Change: 216.239.59.99
Update: 216.239.57.104

[Wizard]

It's an update, but the data looks quite old. I can't find any page newer than January 20th that has any PR.

Of course - the last toolbar updates usually shown already outdated PR. If I remember correctly, it was only July 2005 tPR update that shown quite recent date with new pages added.

[morphious]

I am looking out for one site and see nothing. Checked on mcdar but nothing has changed despite some good link building. Starting to worry because of all the hard work I put in. What the best tool to check the pr update on all the DCs at once also has anyone seen changes to their BL?

[followgreg]

I see a lot of what morphious above sees, some websites seem to be 'jammed' they simply don't get any PR at all while they are quite a few month old even with strong backlinks -

Nothing to understand at this point I guess, probably not the final PR at all unless Google is playing tricks again which in this case would make seriously wonder what the point is in keeping any PR visible to the public if it does not reflect somewhat Google's 'opinion....my 2 cents guys

[pontifex]

I see an update on 4 datacenters as stated by selomelo and reg107, too.

I also see, that some figures do not represent the backlink status I have in my notes for the 20th of January. For me I see an obvious devaluation of single links, if from these sources are laid a lot of outgoings... like if a PR6 with 20 outgoing links gave you a 4 in the last update, it gives you a 2 or a 3 now. (Just wild guessing and expressing feelings here, no right calc at hand!)

But that would fit the signals emitted by matt and the factor TIME (= age of links + age of domain + authority value of source = aka sandbox) better and makes it harder to work with bought links.

I am looking forward to the final public PR figures and the ranking with that. IMHO has the ranking changed in the past right after (3-5 days) the PR update significantly and reflected the values better.

For how much I have understood the actual algo, the dramatic increase of results/pages (BigDaddy) for certain keywords delutes the whole PR value further and the influence of PageRank on your ranking goes further down with that, which is not a bad thing.

If you have not read the article of sugarrae, it is time to do that now: [webmasterworld.com...]

:-)
P!

[followgreg]

Hummm I just found out a few sites with PR on internal pages but nothing no PR for the homepage...weird, can someone explain me this one?

[Dayo_UK]

There were a few posts in the Big Daddy thread around the weekend of the 4th February about a Serp update - this looks like when perhaps the updated PR was applied to the serps and now we are seeing it on the toolbar.

Yes, I know PR is supposed to be calculated continually but I still feel that it gets applied to the serps in an old-fashioned update type way - just not as noticable as in the olden days

McMohan

You were on of those who noticed serp movements on all DCs around the 4th - did that movement hold or was it temp?

[lgn1]

Im getting PR update on:

66.102.11.104
66.102.11.99
216.239.57.99
216.239.57.104

My site went from dynamic to static on Jan 16, and my internal pages used to have a PR of 0, and now they have a PR of 3 or 4.

I figure the PR update is running on most datacenters, and google is just chuging thru the data. If you don't have a PR update, you will probably get one in a few days.

12 hours ago, I only saw 2 datacenters with my PR update, now I see 4, with a partial completion on a 5th.

[stuartc1]

Pr is certainly switching.

Using an online tool which search all data centers for Pr - Im seing old, current and new. The strange thing is when I run the same query twice the results change. First run showed new PR of 5 DC's second run showed new PR on only 2. These queries where run only a few seconds apart.

I think g is playing games here.... I dont see any other reason for this.

[Wizard]

How reliable is this tool at checking for an update?

I wish it was reliable! My PR4 site shows PR4 and PR3 (it had PR3 before update in October) on most DCs, and PR7 on one DC (216.239.37.99).

I'd love PR7 to be the final score :D

My other two sites I expected to get PR5 are showing PR5 on 216.239.37.99 and some other DCs, but still, results from this tool appear extremely optimistic to me. Results from SeoChat tool show mostly old PR on some DCs for my sites with no jumping up, except one site which jumped from PR3 to PR4.

[morphious]

So what is the most reliable tool for showing pr update in progress?

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[MidwestMerchant]

Well I know there are already a few post's about the PR update but I was happy today to see my main site PR went up 1, from a 4 to a 5. Also a number of my other optimized pages that were created not too long ago jumped up to a 3...This is very good news for me. My page views for this month have already passed up last months and are on their way to doubling..Needless to say, I've been waiting for this and what better night for it to happen than a saturday. Cheers everyone I hope Google was just as nice to you! Have a fun and safe weekend!

[jrs_66]

Am I to now assume this has turned out to be 6 pages of premature chatter?

[Brad Bristol]

Looks to me like this is the Big Daddy hardware upgrade going live.

[SpanishWeb]

To have a higher PR is not a good thing for me. I would prefer to improve my rankings ;)

[tedster]

6 pages of premature chatter?

There is a question mark at the end of the thread's title, right?

[a1call]

Hi,
I have seen TB PR jump back and forth every weekend for the last three or four weeks. Every Monday it snaps back to the old PR. This week however the values are different from the previous changes. It might be finally stabilizing.

[rkhare]

strange results

home page/url no change still PR4
new pages created sometime in Dec/early Jan --- mostly PR3 (many of new pages are just link pages without much of content)
most of old pages ------ still PR 2
site created in December ---- PR 3( only link is from home page)

site acquired in early Feb gone to PR0 from PR3 ( has good nos of active backlinks from high PR site)

very difficult to guess behaviour of new algo/infrastructure