PR update started - Part I

a couple of DCs showing PR update

[selomelo]

My newly registered site shows PR in a couple of DCs.
For example,

216.239.53.104
216.239.53.99
while in some others I see a rollback.

[jenkers]

I'd imagine there's still some to-ing and fro-ing to happen yet.

64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104
216.239.39.99
216.239.39.104

show pr prior to the last update - so thats a rollback of pr of at least 4 months +.

216.239.53.99
216.239.53.104
66.102.11.99
66.102.11.104

all show new PR but of those:

66.102.11.99
66.102.11.104 - show PR on a domain I first got spidered on 30th Jan - the other 2 show 0 for the same domain.

[rxbbx]

simsarea 0 -> 3 (sitedomain started 25-11-2005)
--------------------------
first group 0:15 190206
216.239.57.98
216.239.57.147
216.239.57.104
216.239.57.99
new second group 8:30 190206
216.239.53.99
216.239.53.104
total 6
--------------------------
third movement 190206 0 -> 3 20:00
66.102.11.99
66.102.11.104
216.239.53.99
216.239.53.104
total 4
--------------------------

i have it this way... i think it keeps switching for a time.. but its since yesterday that pagerank shows up..

i have it at more sites.. this way.

[steveb]

"Am I to now assume this has turned out to be 6 pages of premature chatter?"

?

PR is updated on 64.233.167.104 and others. Not sure what is unclear about that. It should now spread to the other datacenters as it always has, but regardless PR has been updated, so perhaps this thread can be closed and we can move on.

[zeus]

steve - yes on 64.233.167.104 they have been updated and I do think this is the sign that big daddy will lunch within a week.

[sandpetra]

Definite Movement

I have a brand new site so I'm not seeing roll back data. So far all the same new PR 5 for 4 datacenters.

Still not ranking for my targetted terms - I was, in yahoo + MSN, one week after promotion - although all my articles on referral websites are appearing on page 1s - so I hope it's just a matter of time before I move into top position.

Google still supplying +60% of my organic traffic. But the rest is made up mostly of referrals from on topic sites , blogs and forums. Yahoo and MSN are a joke but according to Analytics users of these engines spend a lot more time looking at my site...wonder why that is?

Are they slower readers?:)

[zeus]

a little Qestion here where do you see th actual PR, just to get more solutions here.

[minnapple]

Looks as pr is being updated in batches, each batch related to a specific date range.
It stopped at earlier at 12/3/06 and now it is has finished with entire 12/06.

[CainIV]

Minneaple - please elaborate on your obervations here...:P

[jrs_66]

--- PR is updated on 64.233.167.104 and others. Not sure what is unclear about that.

What's 'not clear' about this is that this DC is the 'death row' google index. Has anyone seen PR update on a BigDaddy index? How about in the toolbar? Doesn't seem too clear to me...

[texasville]

Well..I saw my more recent pr this morning but it has since rolled back to old pr. I think all we are seeing is the flux.

[Lorel]

I checked 6 sites I manage that were redesigned or custom designed and online since april of last year and up till Dec 27, have all gained PR. One that went online since Dec 27 has not. Sites online before April of last year already had PR 4 or 5 and they haven't changed. I also see a change in backlinks for all sites.

I also see a change in rank in the Google directory for some of the older sites I manage.

[Liane]

Steveb, I'd like to think you're right, but somehow I don't think my site is going from 52 links to 170 links which is what that data center is currently showing!

I am pretty sure it will end up around 57 or 58 as shown on a couple of other of the DC's which are showing the Big Daddy results.

Of course, if you are right, I will be the first one to tip my hat to you and then go out for a nice lobster dinner! :)

[followgreg]

I still see weird things, not that PR is a huge problem for my company at all but here it is:

- 4 months old site with about 50 backlinks (a few PR4 and PR3, all relevant natural or suppliers/partners)>>> Now PR0 on the homepage

- 2 months old site with about 10 backlinks, mostly built up asrtificially >>> Now PR2

- 18 months old site, with 100's of backlinks including a quite a few PR5/6, all unique content and unique concept, all natural popularity >>> was PR4 Now STILL PR4

Hey come on! :) Should I promise mister Googleguy that I will stop the critics so they start updating PR for my company's sites? (company I dont even own, I'd love to though)

[minnapple]

[ Minneaple - please elaborate on your obervations here...:P ]

I have records on 60 sites.
Date ranges of the sampling starts at late November and ends in early February.

These are not new domains names, but existing ones that have all had a common alteration which could change the status of the toolbar number

Google seems to update toolbar data by the date the alteration was realized, rather than by the date it was performed.

Each site's alteration was realized within 1 to 7 days.

[Kirby]

>PR is updated on 64.233.167.104 and others.

steveb, for one page that was a PR4, on 64.233.167.104 it now shows PR5, but on 216.239.57.99 and 216.239.57.104 it shows a PR6. Any insights?

[Eazygoin]

IMHO there is a backlinks update going on, BUT no PR update.

[Liane]

Well I just went through all the links shown on 64.233.167.104 and the large majority of the links listed to my site are from a competitor!

I looked at their source code and couldn't make head or tails of it. Its truly a mess!

If that is the so called PR update, then Google has some major problems. I submitted a spam report to the attention of Matt Cutts.

[jady]

I dont know if its a across the board thing, but two sites that we have been working fairly hard on launching now have page ranks as of today. One was a re-design of an existing domain that was loved by Google and now all new pages have PR. The second site is a brand new domain, we got lucky and know some people that have PR7 and PR6 sites that link to us from their homepage and we got our first page rank today on the brand new domain of a 5. I am pleased. Now - when will the rankings follow? :)

If it matters, the domain was bought about 3 months ago, site was launched 2 months ago (and at that time several lower PR relevant links added) and 2 weeks ago our PR7 link was added.

[jimh009]

No, there IS a PR update going on.

New pages I put on my site in the last 1-2 months, which have never shown any PR before, ARE showing PR now.

The new PR you may see is NOT a rollback.

Jim

[lgn1]

Yes I agree, this is definitely a new PR rollout, but will take several days to stablize.

Best thing to do, is just wait a week, before looking at your results, and either jump in joy or cry.

[McMohan]

McMohan

You were on of those who noticed serp movements on all DCs around the 4th - did that movement hold or was it temp?

That movement held up and continues to hold.

[jady]

Our new site had a PR5 for a few hours - back to white bar. Was exciting to see! Glad that PR7 link we got did the trick. Now, how about some rankings. The AdWords are killing us!

[CainIV]

Any rankings associated with tbpr would have been applied to sites already.

Toolbar pr is updated last in the hierarchy of updates at Google and is really just a snapshot of what is already going on under the surface.

The SERP's may change due to amalgamation of BD, but toolbar will not affect your SERP's one bit.

[Dayo_UK]

CainIV

Yes, CainIV - I think it looks like it was applied to the serps around Feb 4th and other indicators tend to point to the date of when PR was calculated - eg PR on a Page late Jan but not after Feb 4th.

jrs_66

Does make a good point - it is an update on a death row Datacenter and does not look like it uses the new infastructure - waiting for a BD PR update/application.

[powerofeyes]

steveb, for one page that was a PR4, on 64.233.167.104 it now shows PR5, but on 216.239.57.99 and 216.239.57.104 it shows a PR6. Any insights?

Currently 3 sets of toolbar pagerank is circulating.

One is the updated pagerank, other non-updated pagerank and the other one is very old.

[steveb]

Yeah, its been said before but for some reason we have a glut of first timers or people who want to think something is odd for some reason.

[Pass the Dutchie]

yup PR update holding across many sites now.

[followgreg]

When I say there is something wronf all across multiple sites here is an example not restricted to my company's sites (that receive no PR on the homepage for some reason #*$!!)
on 216.239.57.104 most sites receive their new PR while alexa gets a PR0 ....

[Dayo_UK]

Yes, this PR update is showing more homepage canonical problems.

EG, Split PR between the non-www and www and different BL counts.

Roll on Big Daddy

[Liane]

My regular Google is now displaying 57 links (as I presumed would be the case) vs. 52 last month. However, 64.233.167.104 which some claim is "the DC” to watch is way out there in left field and still showing 170 links ... more than 100 of them from one competitor's site. I wouldn't go banking on that particular DC being anywhere near accurate (at this point in time) as far as BL’s go in any way shape or form.

Its still too soon to tell where the ball will stop bouncing, but as MC said in his blog, its likely be a couple of weeks away still.