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Google Datacenters Watch: 2006-01-30

Observations, Analysis and Remarks

         

johnwards

3:55 pm on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This is just odd.

The 64.* DC's return about 300 pages from my site.

The 216.* DC's return about 46,000 pages from my site.

And the 66.* return 69,000 pages from my site.

Currently I have about 65,000 pages.

If I go to google.co.uk I get 46,000 pages. If I go to google.com from my US based server I get the same 46,000 results.

It is all very odd and confusing.

[edited by: tedster at 9:56 pm (utc) on Jan. 30, 2006]

dakman

7:04 pm on Feb 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Big daddy appears to have wipped many pages especially dynamic sites even if there is no dup content... now all the sudden my pages are slowly coming back but i dont think google needs to delete their results why cant they just update the quality of the SERPs without having to hit my site 1,000000000 times a day only to remove 90% of my pages . They remove 90% of the pages then start adding them back again slowly on big daddy's dc's...doesn't make any sense....

they should understand spam control doesnt mean having to delete and reindex sites..... Many white hats use dynamic content for legitamate purposes and can serve more users with fresh unique content.

CainIV

8:33 pm on Feb 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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But Big Daddy it seems is not about that and the PR and BL updates that will follow are Orthogonal (lol - not sure that works there) to what they are trying to achieve at this time.?

My bet is that you are pretty spot on here, and that is a behind the scenes infrastructure or base platform change in terms of the way Google indexes and collects data.

I would suggest that Google may be tweaking the BD results to improve the conditions of cannonical / 302 errors indirectly (by improving the above part of collecting / comparing and interpreting data). Once Google can properly determine what is the correct root for any given site, then it can accurately process the data you are referring to Dayo. Without knowing which page is the fundamental starting point, BL and internal pr is simply not accurate.

steveb

10:51 pm on Feb 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"It is funny that Supplemental Googlebot had never come up in previous postings either here or elsewhere."

I believe it has not run since the oldest current cache for a supplemental page, which I think makes it about 23 months since it ran.

Some significant updates in the BD results today. Interesting how a tiny number of domains have resurrected in the results, while individual pages effected by canonical problems seem to be hurt significantly. I'm way past the point of thinking they have any idea of how to fix the mess they have made, but it seems the prognosis for this year is either total stagnation with arbitrary/bizarre results in terms of at least 10% of the sites out there, or they will eventually do SOMETHING with this new infastructure. With absolute zero fundamental canonical improvements in any way (except slightly with 302s) for two years there appears to be no reason to be optimistic. Even the puny number of sites have been partly healed on Big daddy seem to be so utterly random that they are actually more a part of the problem than a fix. (If fifty sites have the exact same problem and one gets fixed that is a symptom of how cancerous the problem is, not an encouraging sign.)

Pete_J

10:51 pm on Feb 2, 2006 (gmt 0)



I don't really understand why `orthogonal' is
used in some of the above contributions. Perhaps
`independent' is the word that should be used?

g1smd

10:56 pm on Feb 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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In riddles, they like to speak. They do this to make you think.

I have no idea what most of it means. It probably isn't what it seems.

RandomOne

11:29 pm on Feb 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm liking BD a lot.

[edited by: RandomOne at 11:39 pm (utc) on Feb. 2, 2006]

Eazygoin

11:30 pm on Feb 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't really understand why `orthogonal' is
used in some of the above contributions.

Pretty simple answer really. It's because it was used to explain the relationship between PR and BD, by MC.

Pete_J

11:51 pm on Feb 2, 2006 (gmt 0)



>Pretty simple answer really. It's because it was >used to explain the relationship between PR and BD, >by MC.

Yes - but it doesn't mean the word is being used correctly. I think `independent' would be more correct (and less confusing). Anyway, as Homer Simpson may have said ... let's not argue about semantics ...

phish

4:47 am on Feb 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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steveb > i agree..
BD has not even touched the surface of what google faces as far as solving some of the serious issues it has.

CainIV

6:02 am on Feb 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Even the puny number of sites have been partly healed on Big daddy seem to be so utterly random that they are actually more a part of the problem than a fix.

Agreed. I also see that it is the sites I have created within the last two years that have suffered this the most.

Newest sites for me are fine, as are sites older than 1 1/2 -2 years.

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