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Google Datacenters Watch: 2006-01-30

Observations, Analysis and Remarks

         

johnwards

3:55 pm on Jan 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

This is just odd.

The 64.* DC's return about 300 pages from my site.

The 216.* DC's return about 46,000 pages from my site.

And the 66.* return 69,000 pages from my site.

Currently I have about 65,000 pages.

If I go to google.co.uk I get 46,000 pages. If I go to google.com from my US based server I get the same 46,000 results.

It is all very odd and confusing.

[edited by: tedster at 9:56 pm (utc) on Jan. 30, 2006]

Dayo_UK

3:14 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)



>>>>>So any thoughts on what this will be and when?

This is all just IMO - remember.

I think the next stage would be to apply the re-calculated internal PR as a result of changes to 301/2/canonical handling and other infastructure changes to the serps.

Whether this has to wait until the BD infastructure hits all DC is anyones guess.

If MC is asking for another call for feedback by the end of the week - the optomistic side of me hopes that something more will happen by then that requires this feedback.

LunaC

4:30 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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On 66.249.93.104 my main site is back to url only for the index page, and WITH the www, despite a 301.... and Google having corrected itself and listing without the www's last update.

- Many more links are leading to my url without the www.
- Internal links are all full urls without the www.
- 301's been in place for many months
- Google sitemap has been up for some time as well.

Since I did all that I've now fallen out of MSN and Yahoo is showing old urls that haven't existed for almost a year with a current cache.

No idea if any of that is related, bad luck, or something on my servers side. (Tested and the 301's seem ok but with all the problems with the other SE's listings, I'm now wondering if I'm missing something.)

I'm beyond frustrated at this point!

RobinK

6:08 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Reseller,
I was hoping we wouldn't make it the full year in this awful google limbo but for what it is worth. Unhappy Anniversary and may you not have many more.

BillyS

6:31 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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So what is BigDaddy all about anyway?

Infrastructure / under the hood? Are we talking 64 bit processors in those inexpensive Google servers?

Mozillabot is that gathering more sophisticated information that the 64 bit processors can now horse around?

Is the slow rollout due to hardware change outs?

Pure speculation. But it seems that BigDaddy is more about a platform then fixing results (at this moment).

Ellio

6:36 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Pure speculation. But it seems that BigDaddy is more about a platform then fixing results (at this moment).

The latter bit has been said many times but the fact is Big Daddy HAS already fixed a lot of sites including ours.

I genuinely feel sorry for those not yet effected by the fix but it seems incorrect not to recognise the large number of Big Daddy fixes already reported on WebmasterWorld alone...

dakman

7:25 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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the new results propogating among the dc's are strange...

both my compeition and I had like over 100,000 pages indexed then all the sudden they are down like 800% now 216.* and 66.* are showing only 14,000 pages

i have noticed many sites are going down in index page counts... i wonder if this is just flux or if its some new algo...

i dont think you can publish thousands of pages and expect them to be indexed anymore unless you have high PR / IBLs or are an aged site..

I checked older sites with way more IBL's in my industry and the new updates dont seem to have touched them

Bushmaster

8:24 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have also noticed a significant indexed page drop as of today. Yesterday I was showing 1,080,000 pages indexed in most DC's. Now today I am showing 299 pages indexed in most DC's! I hope this isnt something permenant.

CainIV

8:34 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



The latter bit has been said many times but the fact is Big Daddy HAS already fixed a lot of sites including ours.

I genuinely feel sorry for those not yet effected by the fix but it seems incorrect not to recognise the large number of Big Daddy fixes already reported on WebmasterWorld alone...

I would have to agree by confirming fixes for some of my site (not all)

What criteria is used to apply the proper fixes to site x is beyond me.

Two sites I applied 301's to right after Jagger show no http:// listings in G and the homepage shows up first in any site search.

The third site is quite the opposite, with the non www urls still at an all time high...

LunaC

When did you apply 301?

Here's a decent checklist to perform:

Use a proper header checker to see that the 301 does redirect properly and the destination (www) page returns '200 ok'
Use Xenu link checker to check for non www pages in the site navigation and change all of them to www.

Feel free to PM if you need a 3rd eye.

nohllywd

8:55 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)



I read this thread everyday and I have a silly question. What is Big Daddy, is this different than the Data Centers or what?

BillyS

10:05 pm on Feb 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>>The latter bit has been said many times but the fact is Big Daddy HAS already fixed a lot of sites including ours.

I'm not saying sites have not been fixed, but based on Matt's comments that seems to be a secondary effect. For some of us, problems continue.

My pages are down 50% in BigDaddy despite being spidered all the time. There is no reason for this low number - even ASK, which is relatively slow to index a site has more pages.

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