Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
"Celebrating" Allegra Update Anniversary Day
Good morning Folks
Life on Google DCs is much more wonderful than you will ever think :-)
Approaching February 2006, I feel like it just happened yesterday or last week or last month. I'm talking about that Allegra update which changed the map of Google serps once and for all on 2nd February 2005.
I recall loosing 75% of my Google's referrals at that black cold February day. Then the sad stories of other fellow members started to appeare on the threads.
IMO, Allegra was a turning point of the relation between the SEO's specialists and Google. Since then Google carried out an undeclared war against what most SEO's were making living of. Some wise SEO's understood at once the situation and started to adapt and deal with the new environment. Others kept dreaming about the return of the good old Google Dance days.
February is a good time for "savage" Google's updates. Better you keep your eyes opened and watch closely whats taking place on the DCs. And keep your focus on small and big changes on DCs such as
[64.233.179.99...]
[64.233.179.104...]
And lets be wise and forget all about the Smoke and Mirrors of a BigDaddy or a BigMammy :-)
I wish you all a great day and a successful week.
[edited by: tedster at 8:52 am (utc) on Jan. 16, 2006]
[edited by: lawman at 11:56 am (utc) on Jan. 16, 2006]
I'm a newbie on the forum, and I find this topic fascinating because of all the new insights it gives. To most people watching data centers probably sounds like a rather stupid occupation (a bit like watching grass grow), but in fact, comparing results and following the testing progress (and sometimes regress) has already given lots of new clues about the Google algorithm, and some of the reasons behind the sometimes not quite logical serp results.
So let's keep watching and reporting. Remember, Google needs us to do this (at least according to MC).
With Google's love of updates on public holidays (IMO) ... does anyone else suspect that Groundhog Day might be a pertinent day for a total switch over to Big Daddy?
Have a rich sunday cappuccino on me ;-)
All the Best
Col :-)
>>>>>In other words, does each page of content correspond with only one URL in the results?
That is what I have been saying - I can not find other versions of my homepage with obscure searches.
I have never said that my homepage is listed first for my main site - I dont know where you got that impression from.
But I have said that I am no longer able to pull up the non-www homepage which is exactly what you are talking about. I have not had the www.domain.com/index.html or www.domain.com/default.php problem just www versus non-www - I can no longer pull up the non-www.
I have followed this up with rankings are not improving and assuming/hoping that this is the infastructure that lays the groundwork for improvements.
Your theory would hold water if my site hadn't completely recovered. I spent 6 months banned and then December 27th ... back again as if I hadn't been away.
I don't need to watch Google anymore, but I do because it's fascinating. IMHO it's not as simple as you think.
All the Best
Col :-)
"colin_h
Junior Member
joined:June 11, 2005
posts:93
msg #:145 9:31 pm on Jan 20, 2006 (utc 0)
It's only a search engine!
We are the ones that have elevated it to such an important part of our lives. I have a SOLD board outside of my house and my business this week, just 1 week after hanging up my internet spurs & I love the feeling of freedom it gives me.
Anyone who thinks that google is really the driving force on the Internet today is misguided ... google is your main competitor, not your friend or partner.
Show some spirit! "
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On normal google.com I still see some supplemental fixes (old entries representing old content no longer on the page are gone), the number of results shown is lower, but the total count is different: e.g. count was "1 to 20 of 20" and is now "1 to 14 of about 45". I don't know if this is a miscount, or wrong estimate, or whether some more of the older data has been re-imported and is being used "behind the scenes" but still being filtered from the visible results.
If you read back through my posts you will see that I have waited for most of 2005 with a great deal of others to get relisted on Google. My New Years resolution was to sell up and move abroad. 3 days after putting my biz & building up for sale I got a buyer and am just waiting for contracts to be signed before looking at a new life.
With all the others on these pages I've been through the ringer and I'm still interested in watching Big Daddy pan out. It is still, however, just a search engine and my advice is to sell up (if you've still got a business) and move on rather than sitting around waiting for google to change. There is a big world out there where real things still happen and sometimes over the past year I began to forget that.
People who have been here a bit longer than you are probably fed up with me going on ... to them I apologise ;-)
All the Best
Col :-)
I've been following along and I'm certainly not fed up.
It is the one plan I decided on back in 2002 when my one site got banned from google and I lost my shirt. I decided then, I was going to build many different websites about all kinds of different things and that has kept me afloat for a long while now.
I have over 20 different sites now, some content, some are services etc... But I have many baskets now with many eggs so now I worry alot less. The more baskets I have, the more money I make in the end.
A Google Datacenters Watch weather report ;-)
As to this moment, Set-I doesn't display BigDaddy results.
Set-I
[66.249.93.99...]
[66.249.93.104...]
If you are looking for BigDaddy, you may wish to look it up on Set-II
Set-II (reseller's DCs :-))
[64.233.179.99...]
[64.233.179.104...]
As to the rest of DCs, I see at least 4 sets of serps as far as my testing keyphrases are concerened. Maybe its still the reshuffling or everflux.
On each IP, I see at least two, sometimes as many as five, different results, just on that IP alone.
>>On a single IP if I keep hitting refresh, I get a different result every time.
On each IP, I see at least two, sometimes as many as five, different results, just on that IP alone. <<
Very interesting indeed!
Any qualified guess for why thats happening?
I get a different number of results on other IPs, but most of those results return a static number for that IP, even after multiple refreshes.
I was seeing 2 sets of results on a DC before, every third or fourth refresh (actually as I was paging through results) I would get a different page count.
I have had to restart CF and the server every 30 minutes. I think we are getting slammed with new traffic.
Anyone help explain this?
Thanks
I wish!
I thought we were earlier actually but it turned out to be a horrid new bandwidth draining bot (Teleport Pro/1.29.1590).
Phew.
Now I can go back to watching the rankings all day instead of actually doing real work. ;-)
around the 20-23rd Google does an update. Expect a new one feb 2nd or so. It's like clockwork :)
MC says these are subtle changes and rankings changes are not likely in this interation - or along those lines.
Then nothing is really fixed.
Mine appears to have got up and wiped the blood from its nose, and is now staggering about wondering where it is and what is going to happen next. :)
My guess is that mini-penalties expire durign these little updates, and once no-where-to-be-found sites pop back up
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