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A very interesting article (including comments by Matt Cutts) has been posted over at PBS. It may be possible that it is related to the December/January changes
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[edited by: tedster at 8:00 pm (utc) on Jan. 11, 2007]
Regarding the DC you mentioned [72.14.203.99...] it isn't as "updated" as the rest of the DCs, I guess.
Maybe. But when a site is lost, all DC's show the same thing in an hour or two.
They update from another "main DC".
It has happened before to me, though once it took one month (6/27 to 7/27) and another time even longer to come back even stronger.
Oh, the wonders of Google.
Oh, the wonders of Google.
One might also wonder why a site going from PR5 to 6 lost traffic ...
One might also wonder why a site going from PR5 to 6 lost traffic ...
Because ranking and traffic are unrelated to visible pagerank.
This sucks! Ans what is mostly frustrating is that they don't warn you. They just go and change their algo's and here you go, you can start from scratch.
I am seeing sites get together and put up a site like a trust site.
The title will be such as "Widgets we have looked and these are lowest prices etc on the internet".
then they will have articles from sources within these sites banners etc and have links to them on their sites. The trust site is on a different server but I can get the owner info and see he owns several of the sites on this site or at least has contact info but server locations are all different.
So we have same owner different servers sites couple other sites banning together building a trust site one way linking coming together and doing well. I need to get to a SEO convention as this works well and I need some friends to get this going with as well.
Makes sense easy to do and impossible to stop,
This site has been ranking ok for years and dipping up and down like the rest of us.
16th Jan = Site Gone From ALL DC's?
We have pretty much done nothing new with this site? I checked webmaster tools and it tells me the site is NOT in the index.
However we still have pagerank and it is still getting crawled and there is still a cache page.
Anyone care to comment? Are we gone or should I wait a few days?
Jakomo
But it's a good tip. Check your links,!
MC, why would he say anything? He denies everything all the time.
We are noticing a shift in SERPs today, especially these past few hours.
All changes in our sectors of observation are for the better: sites that should rank well still are or are again, and sites that were ranking well these past couple weeks but weren't great, have now been pushed down.
The SERPS right now look as good as they have ever been during the past 6 months. Still not perfect perhaps (they will never be "perfect"), but the best so far.
Are you noticing any changes in your sectors' SERPs? And being as objective as you can be, are they for better or for worse?
[edited by: tedster at 12:58 am (utc) on Jan. 17, 2007]
In the past we have seen lost of shifts in the SERPS but never before have I lost a site. Or should I say google lost our site.
Lucky you, I dont see any changes on better on any of my site
Because ranking and traffic are unrelated to visible pagerank.
One still wonders.. not doubting the validity of your statement, but aehm logic.. ;) The Google wonderland .. where red is wide and walls taste of olive ice cream .. and this sentence makes sense .. somehow .. and is definitly king of some sort.. or another.. I am detecting Schroedingers cat here somewhere or at least a red herring .. which would be wide using above definition.
Anyway that it is a fact doesn't mean it has to make sense.
All my sites are still in Google index but I just found out that Google had problem verifying my sites on Sept 24 and 3 out of 4 subdomains showed "verification problems, not verified".
If my sites are penalized, I don't know what triggers it because I only had a few link exchanges in the past few months and I added new content regularly.
I almost got a heart attack when I found that the traffic from Google has dropped to nil yesterday and I could not find my sites with all targeted keyword phrases. I am keeping my fingers crossed and hope that they will come back stronger like they did last time.
How can a whole site drop out?
1. Most people in this thread seem to be reporting a drop in ranking, and even a severe drop.
2. Others are reporting the disappearance of just their home page.
3. Some are talking about seeing selected urls vanish from the site: operator search, but still getting Google traffic on them.
4. There a few who are talking about a complete delisting for the entire domain.
But as I said, we have no details to go on so far to build a checklist -- not even guesses, just the big mystery. Even a list of things you have ruled out can be helpful. In fact, I believe we have ruled out connections to having AdWords or AdSense accounts, right?
So let's fill in the picture a bit, being sure to say which type of problem you are seeing.
The serps are currently weaker than ever imo.
A site can have a page dedicated to "Blue widgets" and google will now rank an alternative page on the site for "pink yellow widgets today" instead of the dedicated page.
I dont know about anyone else but it looks like an effort to deliver serps that are "just about" in the ball park for the search string but perhaps so weak that the user returns to the search (perhaps clicks on adwords thats the objective)or has to dig deep into the site to get the information they want.
It was only a short while back that a search string would produce results that were bang on the money - thats what gave them the market share and thats what we all loved about google.
Since the roll out of the infastructure last year they have done well at increasing revenues so this messing is working well for them but user experience is imo at an all time low as a result
Does that even make sense?
So no, there is no patern.
Does it help to contact Google?
There has been talk about how important the anchor text is that other have in their link to you and I think this is it! IF this is what it is then there's a lot of work to be done changing all IBL's on sites that link to us.
