Update Saga. Part 5

[Brett_Tabke]

What say you?

Over and done with?

All done all through?

[federico]

the editorial value of current search results on g are very low. eventually people will search elsewhere.

so you'd assume G will want to reshuffle cards a bit or simply revert to prior algos

[colin_h]

I fully agree with BillyS. I think that by creating this madness every month does nothing but artificially boost Google search statistics.

I understand that Google probably feed off the comments from forums such as this, but they should develop their ideal algo and stick with it and not use this haphazard approach.

I, for one, am totally shattered trying to explain what's happened with this change. It seemed to be drastic in the beginning and now the main damage seems to have been done by our fellow web workers sadistically stalking the serps looking for the minutest of keyword infringements to report.

This seems to have resulted in the sites that are using yet undetected boosting techniques being at the top of the serps along with a load of major brands and public services.

All in all, even though my site got a completely unexpected ban, resulting in some rather unpleasant redundancies, I think the results are better ... marginally ... but I can't really put my finger on why ;-)

Appologies to anyone that I've been rude to during this very difficult time, I'll try to keep a lid on my angst in the future.

[McMohan]

BillyS
"Matt mentioned they would spread early this week - well that has not happened."

Most updates have happened around Wed/Thursday in Jagger. Guess we have a couple more days of DC watching :)

reseller
"McMohan
Forgot to ask. How are you doing on J3?"

Thanks for asking :) Starting Jagger1, lost some 70% ground. Running through to Jagger3, recovered 50% of those. So, 20% worse-off compared to Pre-Jagger.

[You proved me wrong. Thought you only indulged in boastful self-indulgence of your site ;) Hoping for many more happy reseller good morning wishes!]

[texasville]

Colin- being one of the "web workers" that reported spammers, I assure you it wasn't "keyword infringement" that I reported and that would not get you banned in any case. It might draw some penalties, a drop in the ratings. But if you got banned I would suspect that you were doing much more serious breaches of guidelines for google.
The only sites I reported were blatant cheaters that were hurting me personally with their tactics. Face it. If they weren't cheating then they wouldn't have troubles. And they wouldn't have been where they were in the serps.
Don't cheat. Do the work that honest webmasters do and you don't have to worry about getting reported OR penalized. At least not for something you were doing wrong/ Admittedly they are some sites penalized for things no one can figure out.

[donelson]

King of all Sales said
Donelson -
We have an Adwords account with thousands of keywords spread accross 9 campaigns. Our CTR this month is slightly higher than last month but the interesting thing is that the number of impressions (for those not familiar with Adwords, the total number of page views for those keywords) is flat compared to last month. Impressions on Overture are up this month over last as would be expected in our segment for this time of the year.

Thanks, King. Impressive. Our impressions are up a lot, but the CTR has gone down by around 30% since the Jagger updates (or coincidence?).

[Marls]

Don't know if this is old news, but just noticed that although spammers/canonicals are still in serps on 66.102.9.104, at least for me they all appear to be supplementals now. Also, clicking cache for those that still show one, now leads to a Google, "Your search for [blahblah.com] did not match any documents" page.

[Atomic]

Not sure if this is an old issue or not but when I do a site: mysite.com command for a domain that looks like site: one-two-three.com I get results for onetwothree.com and my site is nowhere to be found until I add filter=0. Lucky for me this isn't a major income source but I have to wonder if it could be if Google handled this correctly. I did this on my default google as well as 66.102.9.104 and even the J3 DC is full of pages I removed a year ago.

[4crests]

Earlier in the post, it was suggested that we should send Spam reports to google with the KEYWORD: JAGGER3

However, there is not a place in the google spam report for a subject line or keyword.

So, how is that done?

I have placed spam reports many times on a site that is using simple hidden text, but the spam reports don't seem to do any good. And, the google algorithm seems to not work at filtering this out. The offending site still comes up #1.

[like2golf]

However, there is not a place in the google spam report for a subject line or keyword.

If you're using the spam report link:

[google.com...]

Put it in the "Additional Details" section.

[like2golf]

J3 has been sitting on that DC for nearly two weeks and it has not spread. Clearly there is something Google does not like about those results or they would have let them loose. Matt mentioned they would spread early this week - well that has not happened.

OK - I'm betting that someone at PubCon is going to throw a big ol' ceremonial Sizzor Switch denoting the "New Generation of Search: Jagger3" and then all of the results will begin to spread across the datacenters ;)