Update Jagger - Part 2

[Brett_Tabke]

Continued from
[webmasterworld.com...]

[followgreg]

hey Followgreg, if youadd EN (in capitals) to the end of the domain name of that website, you get a big list of pages all signed :s lol

I know! :-) That is what's driving so many people insane. these guys are very well known in Europe for years for using dirty tricks on thousands of sites (When I say 1000's it IS 1000's).
No penalty in Europe...they decided to start doing it in US now :-) Well Google says nothing at all so they continue of course...

And guess what, Google penalized here and there their clients sometimes but NEVER this company while they had they link on the cloaking pages or spam page! Easy to find out WHO must be penalized. ...But no, so far nothing, or they are under watch or they have someone working for them at Google, I start wondering because these guys are really well known for what they do.

[Dayo_UK]

Although that example will get deleted soon.

It is not actually cloaking, they are using a script that says if the page is not loaded into a frame then redirect to the homepage. Very old school - bit like a 0 second refresh.

Bit surprised we are seeing so many examples of white text on white backgrounds though. (I would have thought that Followgregs example would have been picked up for that at any rate)

[edited by: Dayo_UK at 10:35 am (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

[CrackSeo]

I see all Blogs, Message Boards, archives, Redirections/ Clocking, and big sites with Anchor Text ruling the SERP's. Lots of Spam. Looks like Goolge is advising us to follow spaming techniques

[dudibob]

so the way forward is spamming!?

I'm sure this isn't what Google set out to do, hopefully Jagger 3 will help set things right :s

[istar]

I don't think so ,Spam is the future and we are Don Quichottes fighting with wind mills.I have lost my best keywords by spamers scamers at the top 10.I start thinking seriously to follow this way I have in my pocket some good domains from 97-98 .Time to put them in the black seo machine.If that is the way Google want us to play the game.

[followgreg]

Dayo,

Well, I know it will be deleted maybe for the best of all I dunno, I just wanted to make a point, not that Google isn't a good engine, but that these type of companies (talking about the mother ompany, do a backlink analysis) should be penalized so competition is fair.

Now I'm not a very technical person, for me the definition of cloaking is: a page that is, stuffed with keywords and keywords rich hyperlinks, that search engines can see but human visitors can't, and THIS is the case.

Note: If you guys want me to delete my posts before any moderators do and avoid the extra work, I will but let me know quickly because I have to run out in 5 min. and won't be back before a few hours :)

[edited by: followgreg at 10:38 am (utc) on Nov. 3, 2005]

[spaceylacie]

Okay, I got up at 4 AM so I'd have time to both watch DCs and get some work done.

216.239.53.99
216.239.57.99
66.102.7.99
64.233.189.104 -- Nope these 4 won't stick

Here's Jagger 3:
64.233.161.104
66.102.11.99

;-) Just had to get my early morning prediction in.

[Dayo_UK]

You had better change it - not delete - just examplify - the mods will clear it anyway sooner or later.

[istar]

Spacey do you have a TAROT to predict?
or a crystal ball LOL.Any way that was just a bit of fun out of the missery of Google.More importent though is that the main reason of Jagger (spam fighting) has brought no results.

[istar]

cityofgold
We all know Jagger was made because of SPAM.so posting here a place that many Googlers are waching is also good.Instead spaming Matt's blog.