Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
walkman, I'd say the same about the PR7 spam site you mentioned.
Lol - not just me - it goes deep - just posted on MC blog about the update thread at SEW - it appears every domain mentioned in that thread has Canonical url problems (non-www and www etc).
They certainly have done no such thing, imo. The opposite in fact. A lot of sites that likely had penalties against them seem to have been, wrongly, looked upon too favorably by this update. Google needs to get far more aggressive with its penalties. One month slaps on the wrist aren't even worth mentioning.
Google has made tons of screwups and lost a lot of sites. It's ludicrous to call these "penalties" though. When you drop a glass on the floor, you did not penalize it.
Nice. :) We got to take action on it, and we're also looking at priorities going forward.
Dan
>>When you drop a glass on the floor, you did not penalize it. <<
Honestly steveb. Aren't you excited to see what will happen to those gorgeous supplemetals of yours after Jagger3 shows up? :-)
[edited by: reseller at 9:07 am (utc) on Oct. 27, 2005]
Isn't it surprising while Google is preparing to handle sophisticated spam techniques and overt SEOing, G is still not able to address few of the primitive, old school spamming such as hidden text and links?
[edited by: McMohan at 9:10 am (utc) on Oct. 27, 2005]
According to googles patent I read, good sites will continue getting natural links pointing at their site. Which causes your rankings to go up.
If a good site goes bad, the natural back links will stop or slow down causing your rankings to drop. Or causing a penalty?
If you had a few websites that were hevily cross linked you would be fine until you took those cross links off of your pages. Which would cause a penalty because you had a massive drop in links to your websites.
Or if you traded links hevily for a month with a couple hundred sites and then did nothing for a few months. Your link growth stopped and you would get a penalty.
I also read that they keep track of your link (growth and decline) every month.
So if you traded links alot for a month and then stopped it would look bad because your rate of link growth was real high for a month and then dropped down to normal which looks like below normal to google because of the one month you traded links heavily.
Google is looking for sites that grow steadily over time. If you get 100 links this month, you should also get 100 links next month and every month after that. That will keep you from getting a penalty.
The whole idea behind that is to fight buying links. Or buying page rank.
The sandbox is there to keep a person from buying a PR7 link and ranking right away. Basically making you run out of money from buying page rank.
Keeping track of your link growth history helps them rank you according to how popular your site is right now.
If your site steadily recieves new backlinks every month you will steadily rank well in google. If your site suddenly goes bad then people will drop your link and google will lower your ranking.
Or if you bought links on high PR pages and you dropped those links after a month or 2 or 3 you would get a penalty because you lost those links.
I have 18 websites and I have been testing google and how it ranks sites for over 5 years and this is how things are working from what I have seen in my own websites.
Google is right about "There is allmost nothing your competetor can do to get you banned".
But there is one thing I have found that works to get a competetor banned but I don't think that sort of thing needs to be let out of the bag.
Reseller and Dayo - About the update, your and maybe my site troubles (my troubles 302/hijacking/non www) is first seeing a effect late this weekend or next week, so there is still hope, but once again dont expect to much, they had a year to fix it and nothing, but of cause we can hope for the best + its also the first time we have got a real statment from google, so we will maybe have a great Christmas.
if so is there a way to get a confirmation from you that a certain site got hit for a certain keyword (passed undamaged thru all previous updates including Florida but jagger2 seemed to have killed me).
is there a way to post you a question?
