Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[reseller]

followgreg

>>Should I keep on report them? (I can send the info by PM...not nice but they deserve it in my opinon:))<<

Of course. I would report them now..today as per my msg #:492 on this thread. And "I wouldn't be surprised if" Google WebSpam Team will take care of the rest very soon.

[edited by: reseller at 7:48 am (utc) on Oct. 27, 2005]

[cleanup]

Well update 2 came and went without any real changes in my sector. I did not really expect anything big.

I have come to learn that the first changes in an update are usually the important ones and the flux that comes afterwards is just a little tweak here and there. Jagger seams is no different from the rest so far.

I also believe that the "there, there, if you wait a couple of weeks it will all get better" line from Google is just PR to stop us screaming all at the same time and rocking the Google boat. That, among lots of other things, is what I suspect Googleguy's job is, pure PR.

What I really cannot understand is why they have gone so over board with the penalties they hand out. I am not a SEO expert, I freely admit that. I never really understood why my sites were so liked by Google in the past, just as now I don't understand why they have been suppressed so completely.

Of course I have read the guidlines a thousand times.

I have also sent a reinclusion request to Google but have had no reply.

If Jagger 3 changes anything significant I will post humble pie here, here's hoping.

[McMohan]

Well, just submitted couple of spam reports. For starters I chose to report some obvious cases with hidden links and hidden text.
It was quite amusing to see a site which had a hidden link "For Search Engines Only" and linked to a keyword stuffed Sitemap ;) Kind of a thief wearing a T-shirt with "I am a thief" printed on it :)

[reseller]

McMohan

>>Well, just submitted couple of spam reports.<<

Well done!

And I have submitted a spam report yesterday about a site which containes almost all the ingredients of keywords spam. Actually very primative spam methods. Maybe the current filters/algos only cautch advanced spam ;-)

[Darcy]

finally decided to post after reading for a couple of years, I'm a bit shy. This is what I see with my site we have disappeared to 300+ for most of our keywords

we have been steadily trying to add useful original content for our users over the last few months, a slow process since are a small company

we are in travel when I type in city hotels site name for many of our locations I don't get our page. In one case I get the page of a site that has copied a significant amount of text ( as far as I'm concerned) from our original reviews. I also get a page that has been gone from our site for at least a year and it is marked supplemental which I knew from months ago when it still showed in the index. This page has not been in the index since about January.

we don't have a www non-www problem
on data centre 66.102.9* I have not seen any changes with regards to my site and what looks like only minor flux for the words I watch

So needless to say I am stumped, I can't figure out what has caused such a drop

anyway if anyone has any comments on my observations I am all eyes and ready to read them

thanks

[Dayo_UK]

Ok, the DC is settled.

Did not notice hardly anything in my sector :/

I am very much guessing it is a spam filter by GG comments, eg - collecting spam feedback, someone mentions directories still ranking well - G want feedback.

Obviously there is probably more to it than just that as some are seeing improvements in positions which probably would not be caused by the removal of X many spam sites.

Roll on update 3 ;) - That is the biggy - G got it right or not - we will see.

[reseller]

Darcy

>>anyway if anyone has any comments on my observations I am all eyes and ready to read them<<

Welcome.

You may wish to wait until Jagger update is over and see whether something posative happen for your site.

Otherwise, I suggest you file a reinclusion request later as per the procedure which Matt Cutts posted on his blog.

Good luck.

[reseller]

Dayo_UK

>>Did not notice hardly anything in my sector :/<<

I asked my site this morning; Site! how is life during Jagger1 & Jagger2?

My site smiled and said; Who is Jagger? Never heard about it. Is it something one can eat like for example Bacon Polenta? :-)

>>Roll on update 3 ;) - That is the biggy - G got it right or not - we will see.<<

Dealing with ranking issues e.g. canonicalization would be very exciting for you, I guess ;-)

[petehall]

I'm seeing slightly changed results 66.102.9.104 for one of the phrases I watch.

Are these results rolling out to all the dc's now?

[McMohan]

reseller

Maybe the current filters/algos only cautch advanced spam

lol. Looks likely.

Darcy

In one case I get the page of a site that has copied a significant amount of text ( as far as I'm concerned) from our original reviews.

In that case, you may want to spam report about that site, quoting your site which has the original content.