Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[CafeSelect]

I've been reading WW for a few years now and this is my first post. This is my first post. I've followed both the latest updates very closely.

I've made changes, yes. Starting with the redirect problem. All my sites now answer to www only as of last month. Most all duplicate content returns 404's now as I have removed anything remotely redundant according to the nature of the site for the users benefit as of today.

When checking the lastest DC's I with a query like link: www.mysite.ca I still observe and spam report an amazing amount of scraper sites. This is no small problem when I have over 300 concantations of my domains (Just chopped 115 last night that were redundant) that are geologically based based on domain focus. Each site has as much original content as I have time to write about and used to rank predominantly top 10 but I never monitized until this April.

Need I fill in a seperate spam report for each and every website I have? Is anyone else seeing the 302 redirect problem still with this update for specific link: www.yoursite.ca queries?

My serps dropped with burboun and never recovered fully. I did a wholesale name change accross an entire domain that matched the domain and was hoping for better results. I see this was a good call as my old keywords are thrashed by scrapers.

Does this happen to anyone else - You get a referral from google and you feed it back into the search box and your site isn't there? This has happened countless times for me and IMHO is definately replicatable. Feedback and stickies appreciated. TIA for allowing me to post and be a member.

[drall]

[webmasterworld.com...]

post number 51 I made on sept 16th 2004

"Massive swings in the algo will be constant now to stimulate adwords sales which is there sole source of revenue.

They have a billion and one risks and need to post profits as large as possible to maintain growth in there stock"

Judging from there recent earnings I will still stick by this statement.

[Garya]

Now if we could only get people to stop using adwords.!

[Atomic]

Now if we could only get people to stop using adwords.!

Stick with something easy like quitting smoking

[joeduck]

no two sites are equal. For better sites they will allow more

I think you are probably right Walkman but I think they should reconsider the mostly "black box" approach, where we all spend too much time trying to figure out what improvements to the site will improve organic search placements. Better would be to spend all that time working on improving the site with user experience as the only factor. User experience and rankings don't coincide well in the Google (or any other) search environment.

I'm not asking for an algo blueprint (well, OK, we'd all like to see that), rather for guidelines regarding use of CSS, buying/trading/selling of niche-relevant advertising/text link ads,etc, etc.

But I should stop complaining, Jagger 1 brought back some of our traffic - perhaps due to resolution of 301 redirection fixes we did a few months back. Not seeing much change with Jagger 2.

[Ankhenaton]

Just checked one of our competitors on Alexa they have a 1/3 increase. Not that they [one of the worlds largest publishers] wouldn't be already rich enough buying half the planet.

[Webmeister]

Now if we could only get people to stop using adwords.

It's possible, but not probable. If someone put out a mass email and it started going out to webmasters telling them to boycott AdWords because of how Jagger hurt them financially - it could work. It would be no different than what Google did with Jagger. They boycotted our websites because they want more of our money. If we boycotted them, we would be playing their game. They threw the first punch.

[edd1]

people who rely on natural search and people who use adwords are sometimes very different.

A lot of them will be very glad that you've lost traffic and will spend more on adwords not less as a consequence.

[programmingdesigns]

Personally I think the best way is to not use adwords -- you'll get too dependent on pulling out wads of cash just to keep your traffic going. I think a consistent flow of traffic through other means is better - then maybe use adwords as an extra.

[Webmeister]

I agree. I put my AdWords on pause today as a protest of the Jagger boycott of my websites. I am going to use Overture from now on.