Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[Eazygoin]

300M - Google only ever shows a representation of links when checking link:www.yoursite.com . In reality they index many more.

[300m]

Thanks, i understand that. I forgot to point out that it was showing about the same prior to the jagger1 update.(i.e. google had 10 listed)

Sorry, i know that was kind of necessary to know.

[reseller]

texasville

>>I am NEVER wasting time with reporting again. It does no good and wastes MY time.<<

My impression is that Google Search Quality Team including WebSpam Team have been paying more attention to spam- and reinclusion request lately.

We as whitehat webmasters should encourage such developements, IMO ;-)

[SEOTard]

Well - it appears our site is still weathering the Jagger2 update. Even moved up from result 7 to 6.

The only site in the top 10 that is different was moved to page 3. That site appears to me to be TOTALLY legit and original. Strange. I'm sure they are not happy (I shouldn't complain as they are a direct competitor).

The directory sites that occupy the top positions are still there. In fact one has moved to position #3.

crossing my fingers.

[Giacomo]

Did anybody notice the change in the "Sponsored Links" layout on 66.102.9.104 SERPs? I like that. :)

<added>oops... The new layout has disappeared. A test? Well, I liked it. :)</added>

[edited by: Giacomo at 7:35 pm (utc) on Oct. 26, 2005]

[CainIV]

Mass changes over here. All of my sites have moved back from position 100+ to around 1-20th.

Lets hope Google is moving in the right direction.

Even with that said, the number 10 spot for a popular web hosting term shows an expired domain placeholder and shows url only, no snippet...and the domain expired over 3 months ago :(

[Spanish_eye]

If a site like mine, which is no longer anywhere in the serps (position 178 doesn't really count!), still shows PR, should I do a reinclusion request? I don't think its banned.

Question for GoogleGuy: Is there anyone at Google that I can submit my site to so they can tell me why it is no longer ranking? It would be nice to know what to do or not to do. I haven't broken any of the Google webmaster guidelines, god knows I've read them enough times!

[TammyJo]

Probably a silly question but still want to know. When they say Jaggar1 & Jaggar2 are they re-crawling the sites then re-indexing before showing results or is it a snapshot of some place and time in the past where it was crawled and they are shuffling the old deck?

Reason:

- When I look up the links from my site they are referencing most of my older than 2004 pages.

The directory sites that occupy the top positions are still there. In fact one has moved to position #3

#3 for our major search term is an unprofessional looking directory site, and #4 is a site that has no original content. They use an affiliate java code to create little article blurbs down the page. That's it... the whole site. They must rank well because their site has been around for years...looks retro 1990's style html.

Just trying to figure out what the algo's are looking for and why ours lost rankings to these types of sites.

[Hollywood]

I SAID
Cain IV I see the same issues for one of my biggest terms, ip shows and not a normal SERP listing. I reported many times to Google, nothing. More needs to be done Google for us to have trust in this reporting. I still think the reporting benefits Google in getting semantics and not actually doing something. More for them in the end less for us.

YOU SAID
"Even with that said, the number 10 spot for a popular web hosting term shows an expired domain placeholder and shows url only, no snippet...and the domain expired over 3 months ago"

[edd1]

Google are seriously going on the "report spam" trail.

This is good maybe jagger 1 and even 2 penalise good sites in order for the spam to get to the top so we report it, they remove it and then order is restored and the serps are cleaner than before.

Maybe just wishful thinking but I'm clinging to it!