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Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

         

jretzer

5:33 pm on Oct 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

sonny

1:10 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Getting more referrals from AskJeeves lately. They are advertising a lot

Hollywood

1:38 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Yah I love the increase in Ask Keeves and Yahoo hits, seems not everyone is sticking with Booble.

Is it possible that the new results are favoring those URL/s that benefit from higher clickthroughs on SERPS (Via they keeping tabs)?

I think this may be possible, anyone have any way to determine?

spaceylacie

1:47 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"does anyone disagree with the notion that this update is heavily skewed in favor of content sites vs e-commerce driven?"

No, I don't disagree. I think this is exactly where the update is headed. I also believe that latent semantic indexing within the algorithms is playing a big part in this update. Namely, long tail, more obscure key phrases. A great deal of computing power would be needed to provide instant results for searches for longer key phrases, the current trend. G may be using the different DCs to see what their systems can withstand. Time is needed to do all this testing.

WebPixie

2:24 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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"WebPixie,
define disappeared :)"

My main site has almost exactly 1,000 pages. Goggle was still showing 976 pages as indexed. No apparent problems with dupe content or supplemental pages.

But the site disappeared in the SERPS. I stopped looking at position 600 or so for my main keyword phrase. A few days later it showed up on or around page 20 for most search phrases and worked it's way up to page 8 slowly.

I'd like to think it was something I did to help it improve. But I didn't do anything worth mentioning. I've made the mistake before of changing too much too soon during updates and it took me months to recover not from the update, but from the changes I made.

walkman

2:45 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)



>> it took me months to recover not from the update, but from the changes I made.

I did the same last fall. What a nightmare, but I did it to myself. Now I just removed a few keywords, nothing major.

marketingmagic

2:50 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I see this "tweak" as a step towards the final goal - quantifying a quality site for a given query using a algo based on backlinks, titles, descriptions and as I should have added in my previous post - content.

Someone else mentioned symantics. Obviously it's a blend of all the above. Not so obvious is the blend itself.

For those that care, stop freaking out about updates, start concentrating on good links, good content and a good site all around and its going to be all good.

I just hope for those that have dropped in rankings while running a clean quality site can weather the storm till the ship rights itself.

Atomic

4:39 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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does anyone disagree with the notion that this update is heavily skewed in favor of content sites vs e-commerce driven?

I have both kinds of sites and neither have seen much beyond increased ranking and more search terms bringing in visitors. I think this update is heavily skewed for something but whatever that is is more complicated than big vs little or content vs e-commerce sites.

I want to think that this update is about giving more weight to sites designed to appeal to the people that use it rather than just optimized for search engines but we'll have to see where this goes. Wouldn't it be fantastic if people that built good websites and engaged in no link trading or employed any SEO tactics beyond solid design and implementation floated to the top of the SERPs?

McMohan

5:06 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Matt said -

My point is that more than ever, we are constantly working to improve our algorithms and scoring. Some changes are hardly noticed at all.

And he also said -

And I wouldn’t be surprised if a second stage of the index rolls out around this time next week. I also wouldn’t be surprised if a third stage of the index rolls out the week after that.

"Could it be that the Jagger2 and 3 are those changes that are hardly noticed at all?" ;)

frup

5:08 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm telling you Jagger2 already happened I'm amazed people don't notice it.

icedout

5:34 am on Oct 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Guys, I need serious help..

I've been hearing a lot about this cannonical (am I saying it right?) google problem and now I think I may be affected.

Basically when I search for my site in google this is what I get:

www.domain.com - fresh cache, title, backlinks, etc..

domain.com - very old cache (about 8 months old), no backlinks, many old deleted pages (as supplemental results)...

I'm using monstercommerce and unfortunately I've had no way of getting rid of their www.domain.com/index.asp - duplicate home page

What's my problem here? I'm desperate for some answers!

Thanks in advance and hope to see you at Pubcon!

Alex

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