Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

Continued from here:
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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[texasville]

I posted this over in the searchengine world thread yesterday. Wanted to say it again.
The most astounding thing I have sen in this update is a site I reported to google as being spam was banned about 2 months ago. I thought "hurrah". Google finally acted on a complete blackhat site I reported. Never seen them do it before. The site uses about 100 phony pages with keyword url's. It is an old site recently redone by a seo firm that uses nothing but blackhat. All the pages are non existent. All use a js redirect to the main page. Well they were banned and pr stripped and backlinks gone.
Yesterday, they were back. enjoying top listings for 2 word phrases. Their phony sitemaps are #1 in all their keyword combinations. Their pr and backlinks are still gone and they have not changed anything.
My point is-is google using a wayback machine to produce results? Seems like the same results as 3 months ago.
How can a site be reincluded without cleaning up? This is a real mystery. Is it inside influence in google?

[Mountdoom]

It won't be inside influence - just a dodgy algo. It can be soul destroying looking at the minuti of what's happening across the dc's and trying to second guess Google. IMO wait a couple of weeks. Think of jagger as a 3 course meal. We've had the starter (mine came with a stomach pump) - I'm hoping the chef will redeem himself with a first rate main course and desert!

[texasville]

It just seems real strange an algo can bring back a banned site.

[Patrick Taylor]

It's easy enough to imagine that flushing the system (or whatever Google is apparently doing - some sort of top-to-bottom reconfiguration of data, seen in layperson terms) might produce results that are topsy-turvy until it's done. Why, though, does this take three weeks? Is it simply the computing power required?

[Ankhenaton]

I think we might be well operating on a temporary results tree with only the PR display being updated. There is a system split somewhere or the systems are differently distributed. The Geotargeting doen't work for me as usual. Usually .com leads me .co.uk. Now I end up at .com with alink to .co.uk. No automatic redirect. They seem to want to either spare resources in Europe or have changed this because of complaints.

The name FLUX given to the final phase sounds a bit dodgy tbh. I can personally only bank on that it would be useless to upgrade me PR wise and then drop me. :\

[edited by: Ankhenaton at 3:06 pm (utc) on Oct. 25, 2005]

[reseller]

normasp

Welcome!

>>I've wrote a reinclusion request to Google, like GoogleGuy recommends in his blog, and this is the thing more stupid that I've done in my life because I knew that a robot will answer me, and I did it..<<

I assume that the folks at Googel are paying more attention to the reinclusions request recently, otherwise Matt Cutts wouldn´t post a detailed procedure to file a reinclusion request on his blog. So who knows, maybe something good will show up.

And I guess we want to report that thief spammer who have stolen your contents to Google ;-)

Matt Cutts wrote:

Reporting spam in Google’s index
I especially want to hear about webspam that you see in Google. The best place to do that is to go to [google.com...] . In the “Additional details:” section, I would use the keyword “jagger1″ (that’s “jagger” and the number one with no spaces in between).

Good luck.

[WebPixie]

As far as why it takes three weeks for the updates, I have no idea. But I have no ideas about a lot of things involved in an algo that large.

It was suggested earlier that google is stretching out the update to give webmasters that are having issues a chance to clean up problem areas. I don't support or oppose this theroy, but it is at least one idea of why it's taking so long.

[shri]

Umm. Saw a good bump in traffic yesterday on a site that dropped out. Looks like phase two might have started. OR a sitewide link (logo on another site) which was removed might have contributed.

[walkman]

reseller is the official keeper of the records, and our own, certified GoogleGuyologist

[helenp]

This I ever seen before,
Was comparing the results in google.co.uk and google.com which are very diferents, and suddenly in google.com using 2 words (mycity + apartments) 5 results apeared and below tip from google, See results for: mycity apartments state, below another 3 results, then an blue line and another 2 results.

This only turns up using those 2 words.