Update Jagger, Google Update Oct 18th, 2005

When can we expect a new PR update?

[jretzer]

Continued from here:
[webmasterworld.com...]

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Anyone have any guesses as to when we can expect a new systemwide PR update?

[Panic_Man]

I am sure someone must have said this before, BUT, what Google needs to focus on ISN'T making results more relevant to the search term, which is purely a simple exercise in linguistics, matching keywords with websites in order to seperate the 'non relevant' results from the 'relevant' ones... they need to first understand the requirements of the 'searcher'. It seems to me that they try to surpress results from commercial websites, for example... if that is the case, they have misunderstood the needs of the searcher completely. People use Google in their pursuit of information... what makes Google so sure that they should position themselves as the virtual library for the world? Giving more relevancy to .org type sites is very simplistic... often they are bogus, uninformative and even attempts at masking commercial sites.

Maybe I am misguided, maybe I simply don't understand the technology but if Google don't 'look up' they will bite off the hand that feeds them!

Playing games with the positioning of quality websites is dangerous, sure it may produce more adwords revenue, but it cheapens Google's service, it puts them up there with purely 'pay per click' enterprises.

Google MUST maintain its position as the web's unbiased, authority search utility.

MOST searchers need what they are looking for... not only information but solutions too! Which information appears at the top should be assessed differently.

Being so anal about the conventional results and yet so incredibly lax about who maintains top position using Adwords, is crazy. You can say and do pretty much what you want as long as you bid highest on Adwords, but getting your authority site to be viewed by those who need it (even if it's non profit and there exists no marketing budget) means masses of SEO work! Be one thing or the other Google.. don't be the respected bank manager and then tout loans on street corners at the dead of night!

[annej]

I noticed someone just asked when this will be over.

This update won't be finished for a while.
Note Googleguy message 40 at [webmasterworld.com...]
He's talking about things happening over a period of time.

There's not much use in talking about if you are up or down or what you might need to change tell it's over. That's when the useful discussions begin.

[Dayo_UK]

Damm

First feedback from Googleguy for months and I was asleep.

Teaches us Europeans to have a different time zone hey.

:)

Hmmmmz - so a Binary push starting on the [66.102.7.99...] DC.

Intresting, lets hope the Binary push is a translation for a fix :)

[lexipixel]

"There's not much use in talking about if you are up or down or what you might need to change tell it's over".
annej

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I agree, "watching an update" is less exciting than watching paint dry.

Chances are, if you are watching paint dry, you probably did the painting, and while "watching" it dry at least you can decide to; run a fan, turn the heat up or down, open or close a window, or otherwise influence how it dries.

On the other hand, if it's not your paint drying, you may be better off doing something productive and stopping back later to see how it dried.

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Somebody just had to do that. Just glad that it wasn't me.
- g1smd

I had to do it, or my brain would have melted from trying to see if or how my sites were affected.

[reseller]

cleanup

>>can't see why some Google geek needs to drag the name of one of my heros into this sordid little story.....ughhh!<<

Talking about heros, I would have preferred a name from my own generation, for example: Tom Jones, Cliff Richard or the KING himself

Update Elvis ;-)

[Powdork]

I noticed someone just asked when this will be over.

Look at the post just before the post where he asked that.

[reseller]

Dayo_UK

>>Damm

First feedback from Googleguy for months and I was asleep. <<

Me too (:(

[MaxM]

heh

Usually I'm first or second on the second page for a search. Now I'm last on the first page AND first on the second page, so have both places 10 and 11. Looks funky.

[Powdork]

Dayo_UK

>>Damm

First feedback from Googleguy for months and I was asleep. <<

Me too (sad

What was a tropical storm (or maybe just barely a hurricane) is also now the 2nd most powerful storm the Atlantic has ever seen (maybe #1 by the time I post this). Perhaps Wilma just needs to be indexed by Google, and then she'll drop into the list of supplemental hurricanes, or URL-only storms.

[joeking]

That 10 and 11th place - that happens to me. If I search Google and find myself in 11th place I can then go back to the first page and I am 10th! How cool is that?