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site:my5yearoldsite zero results

   
6:30 pm on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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my site suddenly disapeared completely from the index

in sitemaps it says "no pages of your site are indexed at the moment"

is it a glitch or do i have to worry?

7:22 pm on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If it was just the Webmaster Tools report, I would suspect a temporary glitch. But seeing nothing in the site: operator results is more of a real concern.

How is trafiic? That's the most important thing - if your URLs are still showing in the search results.

7:29 pm on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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site: mysite.nl : zero results

not showing up in SERPS for any keyword
(i was #1 for some)
in webmasterTools report is just says "no pages are indexed" , nothing about a ban or beeing penalised

traffic seems to be 30% of normal today

(i had a huge boost in traffic 10 days ago, about 8 times more as normal,after that it got normal again, couldnt explain that)

8:04 pm on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Not sure if someone already gave this one as one of the possible reasons for such a (temporary) complete disappearance:

As already known "Google splits its data between many machines to find matching documents faster", which could mean that if your data is stored on only one machine, putting the machine down for some reason will put you out of the results too, until the data is restored.

A few years ago they had a few copies of the entire web, but by implementing the supplemental index idea, could mean that they can't solve the growth of the net with simply acquiring new equipment and even they could be forced to abandon more copies of the complete web space, going back to offline backup.

In any case I would first try to do a search using "&filter=0" parameter, in order to get more results and wait a day or two before panicking. :)

8:25 pm on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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traffic seems to be 30% of normal today

Is this still Google search results traffic?

8:30 pm on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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&filter=0 , no results
i knew that, had only 2 supplemental pages

and i am panicking yes

8:32 pm on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Tedster, thanks for help, no its not Google traffic

(btw site is dmoz listed)

8:55 pm on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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yes!
results found on
64.233.170.134
66.249.81.147
from about 20 i checked, does this have any meaning?
9:43 pm on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I can't ping 64.233.170.134 at the moment.
The chance is good that Google is in the middle of some short rolling/update.
10:24 pm on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>> >> 64.233.170.134 <<

That must be a typo.

The third octect is always an odd number, so 170 is incorrect.

The last octect is never 134. The valid values for the last octet, that I know of, are: 17, 18, 19, 44, 80, 81, 83, 84, 91, 93, 95, (98), 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, (105), (106), 107, 115, 133, 147, 184, 189, (210) and 214, though even some of those are no longer in use.

10:27 pm on Nov 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

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sorry, wrote it down with a @#$ pencil
it is 64.233.179.104
12:10 am on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We also have an established site gone. Its a PR6 just vanished from the serps. Its on a .co.uk domain - Not showing in worldwide under site:command but home page shows in site:command under results from uk

The site is nowhere to be found in the serps for many many search terms where it was ranking top 10, neither are a few of its sub domains which show under site:command but are not listed

Any thoughts - does this sound like a penulty?

[edited by: tedster at 12:26 am (utc) on Nov. 24, 2006]

12:42 am on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We added a new section to the site on a different subject matter, for our visitors benefit which we though would give them added value. We wouldnt expect this to cause a penaulty, nor would we expect it to have damaged specialist sub domains - would doing this be enough to cause a penulty?.

If it is a penulty - what action should we take and what is the time scale involved.

Any thoughts appreciated - Now worried

12:44 am on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I just mentioned to someone that Google does not seem to be stable at all right now - some kind of changes have been rolling since last weekend. In normal situations these reports certainly do sound like a penalty. But right now, I would suggest waiting a few days before you react -- unless you already know of some way you are in violation of the guidelines, of course. Then, just assume the jig is up!
12:48 am on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Someone pointed me to a snippet that had the same two lines of text repeated again and again to fill 20 lines on their monitor.

I have been seeing two and three repeats for several days, but that one takes some beating. There are definately bugs in their system.

11:10 am on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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one of my sites is completely gone too!

i used to rank #2 - #3 on some competitive keywords, now it's nowhere to be found

searching for teh URL does not return any resuls

but search for site:url.com returns a list of all pages

very strange.
any more thoughts on this?

11:37 am on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Now very worried - Any thoughts?

Have gone to webmaster tools got the account verified etc

It confirms:-
Googlebot last successfully accessed your home page on Nov 18, 2006
Pages from your site are included in Google's index. see index stats

When i click on see index stats it provides the following:-
site: Indexed pages in your site site:domain
link: Pages that link to your site link:domain
cache: The current cache of your site cache:domain
info: Information we have about your site info:domain
related: Pages that are similar to your site related:domain

When i select site:domain it brings me up a page of results all old pages supplemental and the home/index page is not listed first or to be found.

Those that have experience of sites that have been removed or have a penulty - is this what you see?

The webmaster tools dont show me anything else of interest or am i missing something?

12:29 pm on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Also take a look of your robots.txt and it's last modification date.

[edited by: iProgram at 12:34 pm (utc) on Nov. 24, 2006]

1:55 pm on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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what will that tell us?
5:41 pm on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yep, traffic has fallen off the side of a cliff on this site- its what to do about it?.

The site url and pages are in the index but doesnt come up first in the search site:command nor do ANY of the sites pages rank ANYWHERE for any key term - Not in the first 500 - likewise the site had six established niche sub-domains and they have all gone also.

I dont get it, its a very nice established site with loads of unique content on it, it does have some affiliate links on it, the content is all in line with Google guidelines - some far worse sites are ranking top ten.

I have removed the last 50 pages added to the site "in case" something about those pages it doesnt like but i cant see that would have effected it - but im obviously worried about this one and desperate to know what to do!

Any thoughts would be appreciated

9:54 pm on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If there is nothing you can determine that could have caused a penalty then I would look for hijackers or copies because having your website hijacked or copied by others can cause it to disappear from the index. I would search for text on your most important pages and see if anyone has copied them.

[edited by: Lorel at 9:55 pm (utc) on Nov. 24, 2006]

11:04 pm on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Copyscape is your friend.
11:06 pm on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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site: mysite.nl still zero
11:17 pm on Nov 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The real site search has no spaces between site: and domain.

site:domain.com

1:22 am on Nov 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

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thx g1smd

i know...

filled up a reinclusion form,although it didnt say i did something wrong
i only found hyphens (--)wich were white on white , wich devided some urls

2:55 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If in webmaster tools its says that the site is included but when you do the site:command the home page url is missing would you conclude that the site has a penulty?

Im confident that a the site in question has a penulty as it no longer ranks anywhere i just dont know whats caused the penulty or what to do about it.

Anyone with experience of this like to offer advise?

2:59 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Look for canonical issues / dup content problems first.
4:41 pm on Nov 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Sounds like a ban.

[edited by: tedster at 8:13 pm (utc) on Nov. 26, 2006]

5:43 am on Nov 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My site and some others I see in the SERPs are having issues right now.

I see weird stuff everywhere I look these days, some results look clean, some look total crap.

Seems like Poogle thinks blogspot spam is just excellent stuff though, hope it takes over all 10 of the first page results soon, instead of just four or five spots for fairly significant keywords.

[edited by: Spine at 5:44 am (utc) on Nov. 27, 2006]

7:21 am on Nov 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Tedster said: "I just mentioned to someone that Google does not seem to be stable at all right now...."

No argument from me, man. And it's really pathetic how slowly Google updates these days. I long for the days when GoogleGuy would hit the Big Red Button and the update would happen.

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