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Anybody else see anything strange?
My pages lost about 80% of their traffic about 10 days ago or so. Nov 16/17 I noticed a few terms popping back into the top three positions...
Hope it continues to gets better...
Nobody else had any problems?
But strangeness, yes. The site in the #1 slot, which has five subsidiary links, has for the last few days had one of those same subsidiary links in the #2 slot. It certainly seems strange that one page can be in the top two places. I guess Google really likes that site!
My page ranks are shifting back an forth, and the caches are showing old stuff.
I have checked my sitemaps, and see no problems. I did change my sitemap from google to sitemap.com on Thursday. When the numbers dropped, I moved it back to google, hoping that was the problem.
I'm at a loss of what to do now. If it is a data push, or if it is an algorithm change to push the ecommerce sites ahead of the information sites for the Christmas season, then I wish someone from Google would just let us know.
To have traffic drop so drastically without cause or explanation is scary and has really ruined my weekend.
joined:Dec 1, 2003
I lost 90% of my Google traffic in 2 Days (loosing 100/200 places on each keyword :/).
My website always keep it's positions on 6 DC / 74 :/
Today it's moving, up on some keyword (100 places) and down on some others.
Hope it will go back to old positions...
PS : This is my first post on WebmasterWorld ;) I'm french :p
It started yesterday, Sunday.
Traffic for this website got nailed in the September 2005 shuffle and dropped from about 750 unique visitors a day to 200-225 average.
It has keep that average for the last 14 months and never varied by much.
I only made a few changes & improvements to the website since that time, opting for a "if it's not broken, don't fix it" SEO strategy.
Back in September 2005, when the big drop happened, I had a feeling it would come back some day to those levels, so I didn't do much to the website. I added some new content now and then, and picked up a Health on the Net certification for the site (HON), and changed a few links across all 200 pages.
There was a thread about (paraphrase) "Hands Off SEO" sometime earlier this year, but I can't remember the precise name of it.
I've been a member here since 2002 (different names) and have seen this Google Love & Hate relationship cycle with not only my websites, but several other senior members here as well.
Almost Forgot this Important Back Story:
One other thing I did back in September 2005 to study the drop was look on copyscape to see who was copying my material. I found a couple of sites that were and sent them Cease & Desist letters. They removed their duplicate copy of my content and then I posted CopyScape buttons and text warnings (Page Protected by COPYSCAPE DO NOT COPY!) on every page to prevent it from happening again. Those CopyScape buttons link to a "Copyright Warning" page where I told "the story" of how I nailed those content thieves and that we check regularly and being in a foreign country won't help you.
One of the content thieves was particularly bad. He had 27 keyword domains related to my subject. On those 27 domains he had taken content from about 50 of my best pages and served it up cloaked to the search engines - so only the search engines would see it. But those cloaked pages would then redirect to some of the most god awful "MFA" pages except they were MFYPN - Made for Yahoo Publisher Network.
I tracked down all those domains, found the guy's name that was associated with the DNS, and discovered he was in Canada. I then tracked down the name of a lawyer who was in his home town and posted a cc (carbon copy) at the bottom of the C&D letter to that lawyer. I also cc'd a copy to YPN with his YPN client number that I got from his ads along with quotes from their TOS that applied to content thieves.
Within about 24 hours, the spammer deleted all 27 domains from his server and wrote me back to tell me so.
I really don't know if all that content theft hurt me in Google back in September 2005, but I know it didn't help either. And content theft is still content theft, I couldn't let them get away with it.
So I guess we have a new date to add to this summer's list:
(I think that's about right)
search on google : www.mydomain.com
If I do the same search on a DC where my website have not loose it's positions, it's on the 3rd place.
I know an other person who have lost 80% of his Google traffic several month ago, and who have the same problem when look for it's URL on Google.
Have you the same problem when you look for your url?
Suppose it's a certain bunch of keywords that are now under-performing. Did the title or snippet change, even if the ranking did not? Are there other changes elsewhere on the SERP, such as a new OneBox pushing even a #1 result down the page, a new dynamite title from a competitor that's now grabbing people's eyes, etc, etc.
Another similar phrase dropped from #1 to #2 a few days or so before that.
So definitely a change for me, but less so than the ones this past summer.
As I see it, these monthly shifts are Updates. Why WebmasterWorld won't call them that anymore I don't get. Matt Cutt's cryptic use of the phrase Data Push just confuses the issue.
The simple fact here is that the index is changing approx. every 3-4 weeks, sometimes significantly, other times less so.
Changing Index = Update.
Because the index is in a constant state of flux now. Just because one sector sees a change doesn't mean every sector sees the same thing. The algo hasn't been changing so all we see are data pushes and refreshes.
At one time a true update was apparent to nearly all webmasters at the same time. It was a massive adding of cards and reshuffling of the entire deck - not just hearts or clubs.
In all of these sectors, the keyword rankiings we watch are stable. So,not noticing a wholesale shift in who's in what positions.
There remains an issue in the last 10 days or so with respect to the amount of _traffic_ we're receiving relative to other sources, despite stable rankings...
Not so much as a change in ranking as a change in the # of pages indexed.
A keyword that would usually pull out ~50 mill. shows 14mill, 70mill, and sometimes - 449,000
pretty big differences if you ask me...
Other than that - rankings are somewhat stable - the occasional spammer would pop up and disappear, and we are climbing one spot a week :)
Maybe Google thinks its good to show places to buy our keyphrase or to find information on keyphrase.
I can't help feeling (and hoping ;-) ) the current results are a work in progress and I think Google would admit that - on page 2 of the SERPS for the key phrase, 4 of the results are single-page blog sites with domains:
Or maybe Google has decided it likes the ways that MSN does it ;-)
To address the comment from zegiv, the same happens for me when I type in www.mydomain.com in google, All my IBL's show up and my own domain doesn't come up until the bottom of page 3.
I also have 4 new domain/sites that I started about 6 weeks ago that are being crawled on a regular basis by google, have plenty of inbound links, but are not getting indexed at all. I know they can take time to get indexed, but I've never gone this long before, especially with plenty of IBLs and Google has been crawling them several times a week.
I was suddenly granted a big increase in traffic (all from google) on the 13th November, and then at midnight on the 15th I stopped getting the traffic, and also seem to have been punished as regards the domain name "keyword". On the 14th I had 298 searches, 15th I had 255 searches, on the 16th I had 33. (Stats from HitTail search referer log)
Searching for MyDomainName.co.uk still returns it as #1 in all googles.
Until I read this thread I felt this was a punishment for duplicate content. This particular website had various (paid for) articles on it, which I'd published as an experiment and to test a script I'd written. Most of the articles hadn't been changed at all. The site is a few years old, but these articles (over a thousand in approx 30 directories) were published at end of October.
I'm in the process of editing them now, I immediately did a "quick" search and replace job, but need to go through and really rework the material, changing a lot more of the keywords and phrases.
I should add that the site has a Google PR of 4, which doesn't seem to have been affected (as yet).