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12:25 am on Nov 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am really surprised that there are no threads about this, but in my niche there have been a huge shift in the SERPS.

Anybody else see anything strange?

My pages lost about 80% of their traffic about 10 days ago or so. Nov 16/17 I noticed a few terms popping back into the top three positions...

Hope it continues to gets better...

Nobody else had any problems?

9:28 pm on Nov 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hello again purplekitty and everyone

I haven't gotten out of supplemental yet but everything seems to be moving in a very positive direction.

Since my last post regarding this "site:mydomain.com" now has over 2260 indexed all supplemental.

I am seeing more and more searching being pulled from the supplemental when someone on main index is doing a search that matches close to my keywords.

Here is the kicker, almost all my results on the main index come from the search "onebox" Google results. Which is fantastic!

I can only imagine what kind of traffic my site would create only if google lets me out of the supplemental index.

After all my tweaking Google appear's to like what I have done....but I still believe that they also take into effect the age of the website which is holding me back as well.

I hoping by spring they will cut me loose and let me play with the big boys!

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Quite a few of our customers web sites are now ranking accordingly on Google, which leads me to believe that Google has released quite a few sites from the sandbox.

Hopefully they will remain, but knowing Google.. well.. I would give it a few weeks to be certain of what sites have been released and which ones might be getting put back in.

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I can only imagine what kind of traffic my site would create only if google lets me out of the supplemental index.

I'm wondering this as well.
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Just a follow-up, things are back to normal for my site now. We're back in the top 5 on most our our important keywords.
8:15 pm on Nov 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Drew_Black, ok for you.

I'm already in the hell...I tried a search across datacenters and I noticed that I am "alive" only in 3 datacenters ...

Do you think it seems to go down also in those 3 or ...come back in all others?

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Ongoing weirdness here. A site ranking on the first page of results (ranking above mine) is completely irrelevant for the search term in question.

It's a site about a traffic project while my field is in spiritual practice that's often done cross-legged (to avoid using the term itself).

Even weirder, the site shows in the results as "Site Temporarily Unavailable." The cache shows the same thing. Archive dot org shows it as having had the same status back in February.

Yahoo shows only 42 links to this dead site, from about 7 sites. The search term in question isn't even in any of the links to the site in question, which seems only to have had two pages.

I just don't get how Google can mess up so badly.

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In my sector it's 1/2 clean, half irrelevant with a splash of blog-spam and some random weirdness thrown in, and glitches unlike other bugs I've seen in the past.

I think the algo fell and hit it's head on the stairs :)

8:38 pm on Dec 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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my sites are hit hard :(
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It was also so quite in here (there is richer ongoing discussion in other webmaster forums) that I thought that I was the only one noticing enormous turbulence (even on a very old, established website that never even notices and update). I am glad that people are starting to chime in.

Indeed, whatever you call it - data push, refresh, update - something is brewing. The results are all over the place and that means traffic is down for some and up for other domains that I manage.

Like so many of these in 2006, we just need to ride it out without doing anything stupid.

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Yup, one of my sites lost all of its first page serps yesterday. No traffic from Google to that site all day! Hope its just a jiggle - some of the pages that now outrank me really stink!
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Seeing indications of a massive update - 90% of the pages are evidently removed from Google right now based on the numerical results for major keywords - which usually indicates a big weekend shuffle - single keywords that usually return 300 mill results are returning less than 30 million
Words that normally would have 100 million results are down to 5 million - looks like a nasty storm brewing
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some of the features on the Webmaster Tools panel are giving "too busy, will try later" type of messages: sitemaps and verification tools, for instance.

Could be the rumbling of big, big changes in the index....

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Seeing indications of a massive update - 90% of the pages are evidently removed from Google right now based on the numerical results for major keywords - which usually indicates a big weekend shuffle - single keywords that usually return 300 mill results are returning less than 30 million

noticed this since 2 months ago. my category went from 140 mill to 90 to now its 30 mill.
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Well - they must have brought in a different index finally - that 30 mill I was referring to for a keyword is now standing at 597 million - highest Ive ever seen it
5:10 pm on Dec 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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For a keyword phrase that used to yield 80 million results, and I wasn't in the first 1000 results, the keyword phrase is now pulling 419,000 total results, and I'm number 750 (I can't tell what DC is)
On 64.233.167.99 there are 9 million results
72.14.207.104, I get 12 million results.
66.102.7.147 is 5.5 million
What is going on?
When I do allintitle:"Keyword phrase" I get 434,000 results.
Something is afoot with google.
5:54 pm on Dec 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I guess we're in the middle of some kind of data refresh. I'm up and down ten spots on some keywords.
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Yeah another data refresh today. Several pages freed from inept penalties the other day are hit again, and vice versa.
10:30 pm on Dec 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We lost 40% of our traffic on August 17 and fully recovered right after Thanksgiving.
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Traffic on one of my sites seems to be going down while another site in the same "theme" is gaining. The end result is a wash. Same income, different traffic.
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Yeah another data refresh today. [Dec2]

Exactly - by my count, that makes two SERP changes since this thread started, so it's not likely that future posts will all be talking about the same changes at Google. Instead having what will amount to a "junk drawer" thread that just wanders around, it's time to lock up.

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