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Datacenter Watch: 2006-11-09

   
11:11 pm on Nov 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I guess I must change my bad habit of checking DCs before going to bed :-)

And I just wonder why those youngsters at Googleplex keep tinkering with the DCs. Don't they have better things to do?

Look what they have done to the following DCs:

[64.233.183.99...]
[64.233.183.104...]

[66.102.9.99...]
[66.102.9.104...]

[66.102.11.99...]
[66.102.11.104...]

[216.239.59.99...]
[216.239.59.104...]

And as usual, please check your keywords /key phrases and see whether you still exist on Google Planet.

PS. However the above DCs are still what I consider "affiliate programs friendly".

[edited by: tedster at 9:17 am (utc) on Nov. 10, 2006]

12:00 am on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Don't forget that all IP addresses that start with the same three numbers are all from the same datacentre.
12:48 am on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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reseller,

The results look good overall.

I do however find these days that its almost like google is tweaking the algo back and forth every week or so to ensure tht no one site will rank in all data centres for all its keywords at any one time - hence the increase in adwords sales.

I notice some clients sites fall back in the serps a little, then rise meanwhile other clients sites do the reverse.

Bottom line is its everflux and imo its designed to increase adwords sales and it works for them - earnings up last quarter. Whilst earnings rise they will keep tweaking.

Like you i did prefer the good old days when we had firm stability in the google serps but those days have long gone now - since the new infastructure was rolled out we have been in everflux and data watching will just end up frustrating you

Rich.

6:06 am on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My site which usually gets thrown out the window by Google with every update or refresh is holding steady at the same position across all DCs I can check. 40 days without getting kicked now.

So affiliate friendly DCs or not, I see nothing.

I wouldn't be surprised if I get thrown at all of a sudden with no warning when the next refresh/ push happens either. Just no indication of anything big coming my way on any of the DCs.

6:30 am on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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reseller,

The searches I checked using the data centers you listed are still the same as I saw on the 5th. Rankings had changed overnight on the 4th.

Could you explain what you mean by affiliate friendly?

7:58 am on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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annej

I mean that I see affiliate program marketing pages belonging to affiliates (though not thin affiliates) ranking well on the serps.

9:08 am on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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if not thin affiliates, maybe they provide added value?
1:15 pm on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Anyone seeing a significant PR rollback on some DC's?

e.g. 64.233.183.99

3:32 pm on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No offense reseller, but wouldn't you provide more value to this board by telling us what you see rather than simply asking people to check their keywords and report back?

You posted nearly the same about 8 days ago, but I think you said those results were spreading. Did they? Please tell us what you know.

Back to watching the grass grow (which is quite slow this time of year).

4:13 pm on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Back to watching the grass grow (which is quite slow this time of year).

It's growing pretty slow in the sectors I monitor also. Probably just flux. I don't think we'll see any major changes to the grass until early spring.

5:36 pm on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Anyone seeing a significant PR rollback on some DC's?

I just noticed that few of my sites are back to July/August TBPR level. But not all pages are back to old levels. So cant say if its a rollback. maybe minor update.

11:24 pm on Nov 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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BillyS

No offense reseller, but wouldn't you provide more value to this board by telling us what you see rather than simply asking people to check their keywords and report back?

I have different pages/sites in different sectors that I keep an eye on and watch their positions movements (or lack of the same) on the DCs.

When I see significant movements of the pages/sites I watch on specific DCs, I report that and mostly mention the sector which those pages/sites belong to in addition to the IPs of the DCs. Just like in the current case when I mentioned affiliate programs marketing related.

However, we should keep in mind that sometimes only specific sectors would be affected on the DCs.

Back to watching the grass grow (which is quite slow this time of year).

Oh my friend BillyS

I feel with ya. You have been watching that famous grass grow since Jan 16, 2006 [webmasterworld.com] if I recall correctly :-)

12:06 am on Nov 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Oh my friend BillyS

I feel with ya. You have been watching that famous grass grow since Jan 16, 2006 if I recall correctly :-)

Yes, much more interesting than paint drying...

10:12 pm on Nov 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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BillyS

You have also asked:

You posted nearly the same about 8 days ago, but I think you said those results were spreading. Did they? Please tell us what you know.

And my answer is YES! The results have spread to almost all the DCs!

And they look GREAT as far as affiliate program marketing related pages (not thin affiliates though) which I watch...

Ultimately..Google moving in the right direction. which deserves a reseller song:

Oh Google..You are simply the best, better than all the rest ;-)

6:47 am on Nov 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Reseller... yes the results do look much better on those data centers.
7:20 pm on Nov 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Nobody else seeing really quite old TBPR?
10:48 pm on Nov 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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visits through G has doubled to one of my sites
11:29 pm on Nov 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ditto. A lot more traffic but my site is the only one that moved. It's as if Google suddenly likes my site a lot more than it did a few days or years ago. Not just one keyword has improved in rank. Many keywords have shot up and are just about whee I would like them to stay. Now lets see how long the fun lasts.
7:40 am on Nov 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Atomic

Whats your site related to (niche)?

4:10 pm on Nov 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well, after further review several sites are seeing this increase. One is related to money management, one is related to food, one is about the demarcation problem and another is about consumer electronics. No clear theme there.
9:30 pm on Nov 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Some go up some go down and I'm the one losing traffic. Did anyone notice that there wasn't a data refresh last Saturday despite it being 3 weeks since the last one? But I've seen several of my sites drop daily since then so for me it looks like the filters have been tightened and the "refresh" is taking place in smaller steps to avoid negative publicity of Google doing a holiday season update again. Just a theory but I am struggling right now after 5 good weeks : (
10:25 pm on Nov 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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At this moment, I see filters deployed on some DCs. For example:

64.233.161.99
64.233.161.104

Try search both with and without filter=0 to see the difference.

And here is an example of DCs with no filters, yet:

64.233.167.99
64.233.167.104

Of course things might change any moment ;-)

11:23 pm on Nov 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Don't forget that 64.233.161.anything are all in the same datacentre.
11:25 pm on Nov 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I see my client's site has moved up three notches in the top ten. I LIKE these dc's.
7:30 am on Nov 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I don't watch DC's but I see the signs of another "data push" starting about 10:30 PM EST, or 7:30 if you're here in Vegas. (Just wanted to be the first to call it.)
7:56 am on Nov 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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nice call dataguy. Was going to call it too but was waiting for it to spread to at least a few more dcs.

Is this the notorious pre-holiday 'non-update' that leaves many webmasters cranky and cursing G for lost Christmas traffic?

8:09 am on Nov 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well...well...well

One of my pages has climbed the whole way up to top 10 on the following kind..nice..polite..friendly DCs :-)

In fact these Dcs showing unique serps than the rest of DCs

[64.233.167.99...]
[64.233.167.104...]

[72.14.203.99...]
[72.14.203.104...]

Lets wait and see ;-)

8:35 am on Nov 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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reseller I see it too,

Seems like too good to be true.....If it spreads fine if not also fine, I finished my "hope it will spread" budget months ago...:)

8:47 am on Nov 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yup Reseller, my site too showing on 30th position for my main keyword which was lost long back in SERPs on the following DC's

[64.233.167.99...]
[64.233.167.104...]

[72.14.203.99...]
[72.14.203.104...]

Fingers Crossed, let stick on this SERPs...

3:03 pm on Nov 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Now results are back to normal in the above said DC's.
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