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Datacenter Watch: 2006-11-09

         

reseller

11:11 pm on Nov 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

I guess I must change my bad habit of checking DCs before going to bed :-)

And I just wonder why those youngsters at Googleplex keep tinkering with the DCs. Don't they have better things to do?

Look what they have done to the following DCs:

[64.233.183.99...]
[64.233.183.104...]

[66.102.9.99...]
[66.102.9.104...]

[66.102.11.99...]
[66.102.11.104...]

[216.239.59.99...]
[216.239.59.104...]

And as usual, please check your keywords /key phrases and see whether you still exist on Google Planet.

PS. However the above DCs are still what I consider "affiliate programs friendly".

[edited by: tedster at 9:17 am (utc) on Nov. 10, 2006]

dataguy

3:11 pm on Nov 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well, this "data push" didn't stick for me, hopefully it will be back. The Google party is tonight maybe they are planning a surprise for the party. I'm running out of time for this to be a very merry Christmas...

b2net

5:57 pm on Nov 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Another data push just an hour ago: even more sites dropping from page 1 to 5-8 just like in the previous data refreshes. No one is talking about an Xmas update so this tactic is working for Google. So far.

jomaxx

6:09 pm on Nov 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I just happened to look up someone who had passed away recently. I'd guess that more than 10 of the top 20 results were obituaries which must have been written in the previous 3 days or so. That's a lot of fresh results.

Markoi

7:43 pm on Nov 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Some kind off downhill push.

Searching on "webcam hot" you wil find on #10 a rabbit site. :)

[edited by: Markoi at 7:44 pm (utc) on Nov. 15, 2006]

Bewenched

10:27 pm on Nov 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

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For this being nearly the holiday season .. sales are way too slow.

Vimes

3:55 am on Nov 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Old and New Link information

Anyone else seeing old link totals on these Dc's
64.233.163.107
64.233.167.107
64.233.183.107
66.249.91.107
66.249.93.107
72.14.203.107
72.14.223.107
216.239.57.107

New Information here or i hope a test Dc as i've only got a fraction of links on this Dc:
64.233.179.107

Vimes.

Also pages totals for my major site are all over the place, from a fraction of the amount to almost the correct figure.
looking at my logs i had a huge increase from Googlebot visiting 404 pages yesterday. Looks like a Push to me.

[edited by: Vimes at 4:03 am (utc) on Nov. 16, 2006]

tedster

8:14 pm on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I just moved a number of posts to their own thread: [webmasterworld.com...]

This thread's topic is about the data centers, so I want to maintain that focus. If your post vanished, it's probably over at the new spot.

Matt Cutts yesterday made a comment specifically for the regulars in this Data Center watching thread. There is one Google IP address where PR will not update until next year some time. I didn't write down the number, but I'm sure we'll bang into it soon enough. If I can come up with it this afternoon at the pub, I will post it.

reseller

9:48 pm on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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tedster

Matt Cutts yesterday made a comment specifically for the regulars in this Data Center watching thread. There is one Google IP address where PR will not update until next year some time. I didn't write down the number, but I'm sure we'll bang into it soon enough. If I can come up with it this afternoon at the pub, I will post it.

Thanks. Very kind of you to update us.

However to get Matt to talk, you need to offer him at the pub something stronger than a Sprite :-)

Looking forward to see that IP address where PR wouldn't be updated until 2007, though.

Enjoy PubCon!

reseller

10:16 pm on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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And a late Friday Datacenters Watching ;-)

Ok. What I have been seeing on the DCs in general and reading the recent feedback doesn't look/sound like a Data Push, Data Refresh or a Bad Data Push.

The option which is left is; those kind youngsters at Googleplex have been deploying some new advanced filters and probably some algo changes too!

Also I wouldn't be surprised if Google has introduced new search technology to BigDaddy. That might explaine why its so difficult now to understand exactly the movements on the DCs compared to the serps on Google.com .

Which makes Google Datacenters Watching more interesting than before :-)

UK_Web_Guy

10:50 pm on Nov 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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reseller - and all

I think that comment might be referring to something I saw < on an SEO blog >

The DC mentioned is 64.233.183.104 - doesn't look any different to the others at the moment.

Might it be one to watch.....

[edited by: tedster at 10:16 pm (utc) on Nov. 18, 2006]

b2net

12:23 am on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Another data refresh with filters as strict as ever? I just lost even more sites from page 1 to page ~5.

dibbern2

1:48 am on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Oh no! Dozens of pages dropped out of site from previous top 5 positions for geographical key words/phrases. Logs say it happened Nov 15.

We had just cleaned up design, deleted duplicate content, submitted G-sitemaps, and added about 100 new pages. Thought this problem might be in something I did, but this thread suggests its more like an algo change or data push.

I'm wondering if there's any hope its a 3 or 4 day hiccup.

walkman

1:52 am on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)



something just changed today. I was doing good on a certain site--it lasted only about two days. This sucks.

reseller

7:32 am on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The more I look at it, the more it looks like an algo update. All indications are there, and we have seen before an update just before X-Mas shopping ;-)

Marval

11:24 am on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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reseller - looks like it with all of the amazon and yahoo stores taking the top 10s - at least theyre letting the scrapers/cloakers stay in the top results as well - seems to be a good filter set for Xmas outside the US

berrysharpie

2:58 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Does anyone understand why there is sometimes a difference between the DC's and live results? Meaning, ALL the DC's have my site shown in the normal position for my primary keywords but as of yesterday afternoon, the *live* Google I am seeing does not have my site under that keyword string. It looks like all the other keyword strings are fine so far but this just seemed odd.

Typically when I see a disappearing act with keywords, I also see the same on the DC's. Never this. It also looks like the live results I am seeing are not matched with any of the DC's. For example the DC's show a different number of results like 145 mill to 215 mill results. The live one is the only one I can see that has 218 mill results.

Any thoughts?

Berry

reseller

3:44 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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berrysharpie

Does anyone understand why there is sometimes a difference between the DC's and live results?

I have noticed the same recently.

Maybe, that could be explained as follows:

Behind each IP of the datacenters could hide several boxes. Those boxes might have different data at different time of the day. I.e we don't really see ALL the boxes behind each IP within the datacenters watch tools.

Google live migtbe hiting boxes we don't see.

Not very sure though, but thats the best I can come up with at this saturday evening :-)

berrysharpie

4:08 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hmmm Interesting thoughts Reseller, thank you for your input. I had not thought along those lines.

I am going to hope it is just a glitch in the matrix. ;)

Thanks again Reseller for the response. :)

Berry

trinorthlighting

4:14 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am seeing a change as well. Seems like ecommerce sites are being pushed up a little which makes sense. Most people who go to google for holiday shopping want ecommerce sites to come up before informational types of sites.

Manpasand

4:35 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ys, something has changed

New sites are showing in SERP and few moved back 1 to 4 page.

ichthyous

5:03 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I saw a sudden surge on the 16th and my traffic doubled...but yesterday it halved again and it's now lower than before! I saw this happen once before about 6 weeks ago. Has anyone else seen a sudden surge followed by dismal traffic?

Knoopss

5:04 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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btw, when did google start showing 50 results per page? (I don't use more than once per month)

Gimp

5:40 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have been watching this data center stuff for over a year and am yet to fathom any use for the information posted here.

Now that could be because I am an Old Grumpy Buzzard who neither cares about SEO nor is too awful bright.

Please tell me how a webmaster can use this information.

Or is this just a general chat thread for people to make useless posts?

If the information has some practical application, please post what it is so that I, and perhaps some others who are SEO challenged, can learn something.

BillyS

9:43 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>>btw, when did google start showing 50 results per page? (I don't use more than once per month)

It started the day you set your preferences to 50 results per page.

>>Or is this just a general chat thread for people to make useless posts?

I believe these threads are here to accomodate those webmasters that like to watch grass grow. ;) About a year ago we'd alway see these DC comments in many threads. This keeps all those observations nice and tidy.

tedster

10:21 pm on Nov 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just found my notes. The IP where PR will not be updated is indeed 64.233.183.104 - as UK_Web_Guy said.

...to get Matt to talk, you need to offer him at the pub something stronger than a Sprite :-)

You can offer all you want, reseller -- he won't be having any.

g1smd

2:38 am on Nov 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Is that just 64.233.183.104 or on all of 64.233.183.nnn do you know?

tedster

3:38 am on Nov 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Matt only gave that full address - he specified all four octets. We might learn just a wee bit about PR by watching the rest of the class C at the same time, eh?

Funny side note, he devoted that tidbit specifically to the regulars in this thread -- and mentioned g1smd and reseller by name. So even though you weren't in Vegas, you had your moment in the limelight.

g1smd

3:47 am on Nov 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Heh, I missed all that.

Been away for the last week, and completely off line!

reseller

7:33 am on Nov 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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tedster

Funny side note, he devoted that tidbit specifically to the regulars in this thread -- and mentioned g1smd and reseller by name. So even though you weren't in Vegas, you had your moment in the limelight.

Very kind of Matt for the mention. And very kind of you tedster for feedback.

reseller

10:18 pm on Nov 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Folks

At this moment, link: operator is returning error alert on default google.com and google.dk

google.com returning error alert:

Server Error
The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.

If the problem persists, please mail error@google.com and mention this error message and the query that caused it.

google.dk returning the same alert in danish:

Serverfejl
Serveren stødte på en fejl og kunne ikke fuldføre din søgning.

Hvis problemet varer ved, så send en e-mail til error@google.com og nævn denne fejlmeddelelse og søgningen, der forårsagede den.

However, on google datacenters watch tool, link: operator is functioning well.

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