Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
Does anyone have any input on why if this (June 27) is a mistake it is taking so long to fix?
[edited by: tedster at 7:44 pm (utc) on July 18, 2006]
It's really upsetting to loose on money making natural keywords then find out the same keywords now will cost about 800% more with Adwords.
Google is about stock now, not keyword relevance.
I've been hit hard by lost pages but have in fact gained rankings on my key terms.
( It's always about the money. "Follow the money" said Deep Throat in "All the President's Men" - one of the key ways I viewed the world since then )
I note that "Trump Taj Mahal Casino" (big budget) has risen right up to #2 the index for "Taj Mahal", even though it's got nothing to do with the actual site in India...
But what I can't figure using your logic, is why the Great Buildings (no money for AdWords) is now #1, with very little actual data on the Taj...
I've even found supp pages reported for directory.google.com which pretty musch speaks volumes for the state of the index.
I have seen a few google directory pages go supp this time too, but regional dirs
dazz
does not explain, why my rankings are UP my pages indexed is DOWN. :(
About 8 months to a year ago, I initiated a 301 redirect from the non www to the www.domain.com, although I was not aware of any canonical problems with the site.
Now when I do the site:domain.com command, in first place is domain.com (supplemental), followed by www.domain.com/otherpages.htm (all supplemental), followed by www.domain.com/otherpages.htm (not supplemental) - but no sign of www.domain.com
When I do site:www.domain.com, www.domain.com is preceded by lots of www.domain.com/otherpages.htm (all supplemental).
Has anyone else suffering from the June 27th "refresh" noticed anything similar?
[edited by: Wibfision at 1:02 pm (utc) on July 20, 2006]
If one was optomistic then perhaps it is a sign that they are testing/trying to debug the canonical problem.
However, being realistic, after 18+ months of problems/issues then it is probably just the randomness that seems to happen to sites that get this problem.
Google have just hadded some RAM
Random Adwords Momentum
There is nothing you can do except:- go back to building and promoting your site to the degree - google doesn't matter. Worry about your site and let google take care of it's own.
This is a nice way of saying our webmastering careers are dead in the water.
[edited by: Martin40 at 5:26 pm (utc) on July 20, 2006]
Sure, that is one of the most common problems.
It might not vault you to the top, but I am sure it helps.
One additional note, google tries to serve up appropriate ads for the page, so if you sell widgets its interesting to see what google serves up and how google views content and matches things up.
My website that lost rankings on June 27th ranks much better there. When I accessed the search, the datacenter was 64.233.187.104. However, when I accessed the data center directly, I still had the post June 27th poor rankings.
Is that because my site is particularly accessible to blind users, or is it because whatever went wrong on June 27th has bypassed this new search?
Test your own sites and post back.
It also seems to react differently to pages with problems. None are recovered, but some do significantly better while others with milder problems seem to do quite a bit worse.
(As if we need something else weird from Google....)
Just:
1.) Don't Spam
2.) make it useful and relevant
3.) Also contribute in a useful way to wikipedia.
You'll probably stay on and get more and more traffic.
Additionally I created loads of videos to put on youtube yahoo and Google with a text snip of the narration. They consistently then rank higher in the serps as my site, which has been hit again.
Still what worries me about the web in general is that content isn't really the thing to do in many sectors. There is so much new content coming in every day that you actually only fight content inflation.
Especially if you publish in english as you need to be the best within a really huge population and that field has to be large enough to make a living.
What we really need is some form of bust again that tell everybody.. go away on the net there is no fortune to be made ..
Hopefully with Googlestock reaching saturation this will come soon.
So, IMO all our whining to Google about their search engine being messed up is not going to do alot of good.
It's all about money; not search quality.
>diddlydazz
>4. the "4 page penalty" (penalty/dampening/whatever) seems to be *real* for numerous pages on 18 of our sites.
Despite direct requests for help and all the postings here and I see today more comments on Matts blog there is no sign of any help.
Looks like it's time to switch all my on site serach to Yahoo?
Come on google we've supported you though thick and thin how about some help in return....
LP
[search.yahoo.com...]
[search.yahoo.co.uk...]
I have put Yahoo as the default search engine
Believe me, I'm a prophet of a lesser God, my predictions come true only by accident, but sometimes I get lucky.
Like last year, when I said on another forum: let's not call Google cool all the time or they will start behaving like monopolists.
Well, a year has passed and Google's dismissive attitude towards the search engine death of so many is conspicuous.
So what's the morale? It's investment rule #1: sell your stocks before the board does.
