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My website has plenty of outbound links, but they are on relevant pages. The problem my site has always had, was a lack of "inbound links." I got tired of searching for people to link to me (with all the spammy sites around) and gave up. So my pages have acquired some links naturally I guess(and I'll bet I still don't have more than 30 inbound links for the whole site) Still have a PR4, which I've had since it disappeared in Nov.
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 8:54 pm (utc) on May 27, 2005]
MikeNoLastName
>The three rules needed to get dumped SEEM to be:
1. High proportion of external links (including affiliate links) to internal links and/or content on the page. (exact proportion unknown)
2. Domain newer than 4 years. (over 4 MAY or may not be exempted if 1 & 3 exist)
3. Adsense Ads on the page. <So far so good :-)
Lets take a look at this one excluding affiliate links for the moment and concentrating only on outbound and internal links:
>1. High proportion of external links (including affiliate links) to internal links and/or content on the page. (exact proportion unknown).<
Have done some counting for the pages which preserved their ranking and those lost it. I can see that the number outbound links shouldn't exceed the number of internal links. Maybe its a factor of:
Maximum Outbound links number either equal or preferably 10% less than the number of internal links.
As to affiliate links I'm looking at present at pages with affiliate programs reviews, both those which kept their ranking on the serps and those which lost it. Shall keep this thread posted.
As to AdSense, It might be a factor among other factors to identify the target pages but not a factor which alone cause a page to be penalized.
Interestingly, I also have 3 websites that are nothing but basic one page only sites (these are just an index page with 2 link exchange pages) that are their domain names for sale. They have shot up to the 1st or 2nd page of results at Google in a search for each of their respective fields. One is 1st on the 1st page now (all of them are linked to my main site). This is where they USED to be for years, but some time back they got trashed by Google and remained trashed. But now, they are back on top. That's of little consolation to me though since my main biz site is trashed.
Interestingly, I also have 3 websites that are nothing but basic one page only sites (these are just an index page with 2 link exchange pages) that are their domain names for sale...They have shot up to the 1st or 2nd page of results at Google in a search for each of their respective fields
I am seeing lots of this also. Not very funny seeing domain parked pages above sites with oodles of content...
Google must be working on "suggestion" rank - where the merest suggestion of a topic boosts the ranking of that page in the SERPS compared to those that are perhaps overdoing it (in Google's eyes) on the site optimisation/content/linking front....
Google scholar was the only good thing they came up with lately and I don't think that idea was their's.
The web has changed though.
If you compare it to looking for a needle in a haystack - the amount of hay has gone up a lot lot more than the amount of needles.
MFA sites and scrapers must account for at least 2 billion pages. ;-]
Interestingly, I also have 3 websites that are nothing but basic one page only sites (these are just an index page with 2 link exchange pages) that are their domain names for sale...They have shot up to the 1st or 2nd page of results at Google in a search for each of their respective fields
I am seeing lots of this also. Not very funny seeing domain parked pages above sites with oodles of content...Google must be working on "suggestion" rank - where the merest suggestion of a topic boosts the ranking of that page in the SERPS compared to those that are perhaps overdoing it (in Google's eyes) on the site optimisation/content/linking front....
I don't know if you'd call these "domain parked pages". I registered and own the domains, and the way I try and sell them is I made a webpage for them. At any rate, speaking of *real* domain parked pages and something else odd; I forgot to mention that I have a few field-related domain names that are "pointed", "parked", or "forwarded" (whatever you want to call it) to my main business domain. When you enter these names in your address bar, their domain names will show in the address bar as well for all links clicked, but the content is the exact same thing for each (the content of my main site of course). I never even submitted these other domains to Google, and now **THEY** are showing up *INSTEAD OF MY MAIN DOMAIN* in searches for phrases where my main domain WAS showing up! (Although WAAAAAY down the results list now for search phrases). They even show up now for a search for my business name, where my main no longer does (again, although way down the results list)! This is one of the main things that PROVE how ****ed up this update is. People removed from G's index for their OWN BUSINESS NAMES, yet OTHER SITES now showing instead!
Are you saying you have other sites that have the exact same content as your main site?
You probably should really have 301 redirected them to your main site or excluded Googlebot via Robots.txt. It does not really matter if you have submitted them or not - Google has ways of finding domains.
The more non-competitive, neutral, free content you offer (like published library book text ;), the more they'll like you.
I wish this could be true and for a while I had the impression it was. Bourbon just proved this to be wrong in our case.
Either we have some very obvious other problem or our site matches the "non-competitive, neutral, free content" definition and still got hit by Bourbon. We lost between 60 and 80% of the visits coming from Google.
Most of our content is the on-line version of a published library book...
Clint
Are you saying you have other sites that have the exact same content as your main site?You probably should really have 301 redirected them to your main site or excluded Googlebot via Robots.txt. It does not really matter if you have submitted them or not - Google has ways of finding domains.
If this is bad, then how would/could I change this in Cpanel?
Thanks.
Well - in an ideal world - yes.
>>>If this is bad, then how would/could I change this in Cpanel?
Hmmm - you might need to ask your hosts but you might be able to do it with .htaccess.
There have been 101 threads in the Apache forum about redirecting recently. (But I am not an expert so would not personally want to hand out code - in case I am wrong).
