Forum Moderators: Robert Charlton & goodroi
No, that is zero sum game. The most useless posts here are from people saying the serps on some datacenter suck or are good because their own stuff ranks bad or good on that datacenter. Not only does nobody else care, there is someone thinking the exact opposite due to how their stuff is ranking.
In any case (repeating mantra from past several updates), a lot folks should consider that screw ups are not deliberate policies. Google has been a technical mess for more than a year now, just over two years really. Allegra was just a blip of an update, but was a huge technical disaster. Google also has a horrible time figuring out canonical pages, particularly when webmasters deliberately do inconsistent things.
This update seems to me to be another minor bit of shuffling, with the added "bonus" of a lot of anomalies, most caused by lazy or uniformed webmastering (meaning if you have been reading webmasterworld and haven't had a 301 on for non-www and www since at least last summer, you only have yourself to blame).
I see almost no changes in my niches, except... a HUGE increase in straight redirect domains. This tactical trash gets discovered fairly quickly but apparently a new tactic has been discovered and needs to be squashed; authority sites performing same as recently; sites still in the sandbox dumped back to pre-Allegra levels, while sites that got out of the sandbox with Allegra doing a bit better.
Started at 9:30 AM PDT and has been going on for over 3 hours now. Averaging about 50 hits per second just from
Googlebot. They've never hit us like this before.
We've been online for over 10 years and I've never seen
this kind of crawl activity from any bot. it's almost
like a DOS attack. :-)
Is anyone else seeing this kind of crawl activity from
Googlebot?
I'm showing up for my company name now too, was on page 2. Now I've got the home page and another page indented, with a more results from ... link.
But it's on again, off again, and still not ranking for the usual phrases though...
LisaB
I'm showing up for my company name now too, was on page 2.
I'm back up to #1 (from #5) for my site's name on www.google.com this afternoon. I'm also coming back for some of my major keyphrases, and I'm #6 (my highest ranking ever, I think) for an important city name.
I wonder if this is related to something I saw a day or two ago--the fact that Google was finally returning the same number of links for sitename.com and www.sitename.com? Maybe PageRank from the non-www and www versions is finally being combined. (If so, it's taken about two months; I implemented a 301 redirect for www to non-www at the end of March.)
They tanked again with this update and haven't yet come back. Sporadically we're as strong as ever for the search terms we follow ... but for the most part, we're either in 1st place or 200th place with no in-between.
My ranking for my homepage has tanked :( - but I guess it could still move around. And my internals dont seem to be effected - yet (I also put a redirect in about the same time as you)
DON'T PANIC
If your site plays by the rules, it will invariably rise to where it belongs.
>If your site plays by the rules<
Which rules?
PS. When done Liverpool. :) - You should have put a full strength side out against Palace and perhaps Norwich may have stayed up - but hey.
msn: #1 and #2
yahoo: #1 and #2
google: #81
I will see if it rises in the next few days. I have learned one thing from this episode: do not depend too heavily on google for traffic. They are simply too skittish, too big and too difficult to comprehend.
I am devoting the rest of this month and June and forever after to getting my web presence and traffic up to MY expectations (was 231,000 in Alexa and aiming for top 100,000 until Friday), all white hat SEO, plus branding, plus email newsletter, plus, plus, plus...
Work never ends, does it?
2. It's best to do one thing really, really well.
Really? Well...
Who would have thought a little crafts niche could be so cutthroat?
I'm noticing for one of our sites that has disappeared this update that it's showing about as expected for allinanchor on most DCs... this is new today.
Keep on rolling...
But it could (please hopefully) be that other factors are being added and efv improved first.
crossing my knees, toes and ears
Is anyone else seeing this kind of crawl activity from Googlebot?
erthlng - I came here to see if anyone else was reporting this. I had a deep crawl on the 22 / 23rd which was unusual so close to an update. Now another today - just two days later. Either my website has become more important or something is still shaking.
Which one is it gonna be...gigablast here i come ;-)
I put in the name of our established company and came up number 5...not too bad, but the number one spot is for a site that ask if you "wanna learn" about something...you guessed it...wanna learn about "mysite".
The only thing of this #1 page is our name and a description of what you will find when you visit our our site...oh and did I forget...Adsense ads :) So I guess we are still, sorta, kinda #1 if you click the link on the page :)
The traffic is the same, its just a shuffle of the cards.
Why do some webmasters think that because they were rank 1 in google for the last 5 years that they still should be?. The internet has zillions of sites now not just a few!
Im sorry but the age filter that google has used in the past can be a royal pain in the ar@e. Some dam good sites have been held back in google in the past whilst some real dross has featured. When the dust settles on this update if just a small percentage of those sites get in the index and some dross taken out the SERPs it will have improved and will be another step forward.
Google does not owe anyone anything here. For every loser their will be a winner. Its a reshuffle for now, that is all.
Currently as i see it the jury is still out as the update has not settled yet?
Frankly, these are not a bad set of results. Some sites feature a lot better and some poor quality sites have been found out.
That being said, i dont see these results in the UK anyway, but if they were i certainly think these are an improvement over what google currently shows.
Good luck all
Currently as i see it the jury is still out as the update has not settled yet?
Indeed. This one is uncharacteristically lenghty. I hope that, when all is said and done, the SERPs will be better, as defined as finding my site at the top position for my "company name" - it's not too much to ask, is it? Yahoo can do it.
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI}!^/_vti_bin [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^example\.com [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ [example.com...] [L,R=301]
When I put this code into the htaccess file, I cannot sign into frontpage...I get errors. If I take the code out, I can sign into frontpage with no problem. Surprised no one else is having problems with this?
Your best bet is here:
[webmasterworld.com...]
Chopin - while it is tempting to post a question in such an active thread, I'm not sure what a mod_rewrite question has to do with the Google update.Your best bet is here:
[webmasterworld.com...]
I asked there already. No one knows. I figured that maybe some of you guys will know since alot of you may use frontpage. This sort of has something to do with the update anyway. This piece of code may be part of a reason why some of us have tanked. I can't even use this code without not being able to sign into frontpage. Anyone have any clues?
Will all this come back to normal or do I need to apply for a Job at McDonalds. LOL!
I spent a lot of time struggling with the problem you've encountered, and I ended up changing .htaccess in a text editor and giving up on using FrontPage to publish my files. I now publish those files with ftp. (In fact, I had my hosting service remove the FrontPage server extensions from my account, since I don't use FP forms, search, message boards, etc. and no longer need them.)
Can't help with Front Page, Chopin. But I just put 301 on my site that has gone 60% URL-only over the last two weeks. A tad late. I can't figure out how this problem (URL-only) is related to the update, if it is. But plenty of others seem to have experienced the URL-only mess coincidentally.
Anyone see a relationship beyond duplication? Site structure?
Have any of your URL-only Websites started to come back?
It would be different if this happened for one or two keywords but this happened for almost every single keyword I used to rank high for. Particularly the "competitive" phrases.
I think the thread about the Yahoo scraping penalty may have some merit.
Should I cry! ..... my main website used to get 90% of my 3000 page views per day from "GOOGLE" and thats all gone. Is like my head just gotta chopped off.
If it's any consolation, you're not alone. There are lots of us going through the same thing.
Will all this come back to normal or do I need to apply for a Job at McDonalds. LOL!
