Update Allegra - Google Update 2-2-2005

[illusionist]

My site which came back on december 26 update, seems to have disappeared again on this data center [216.239.53.99...] . Its notwhere to be found even in allinanchor, allintitle etc? I see majot change on that data center, is this a new update?

[2oddSox]

The work that you did certainly had every chance of improving your rankings. As you specifically mention Google it would appear that you have gained from the latest tweaking that G appear to be doing. If you cast your eyes over to the Google Forum, you'll see some pretty hefty threads [webmasterworld.com] going on right now about this update.

Congrats on your new rankings.

[Dynamoo]

Frankly, words in this thread would be better used discussing the current algo / changes.

Amen to that.

In previous updates there used to be a separate "analysis" thread. So far I've seen about 95% whinging (myself included) and about 5% analysis (and I think a big chunk of that was me posting the same thing several times).

Look - Google giveth, and Google taketh away. Get used to it. I'm more interested in WHY it has changed and how to fix it.

[Adam]

Every site in my search sector with large numbers of one way outbound links, has been wiped out by Allegra [e.g. affiliate sites, directories, ecommerce sites with directories, etc.]. I'm convinced that one element of Allegra has been aimed at finally tackling the issue of scraper sites, made for adsense directories, etc. This problem has been spreading like a plague recently. Is there anyone here that is linked to hundreds of sites that are not linking back, and have not been affected by Allegra?

[BeeDeeDubbleU]

Larry & Sergey,
Hope this reaches you. I am a well-wisher of Google & was a fan....uptil now. my website is online since 1999. for last 5 years, we have been on first page first site for our primary keywords. But, now with this recent algo change of urs, we are nowhere.

IrvingGuy,
We don't give a rat's ass about your results - we're rich man! You think we care about your results? You need a reality check.
Sgnd,
Larry and Sergei

But seriously, all of you who are promoting the idea that the press should get a hold of this also need a reality check. Try explaining what happened here to Joe Public - no chance!

If the press aren't interested in featuring something as radical and significant as the sandbox we'd better just forget about it. This happened almost 12 months ago and there has not been a single mention of it in the press, anywhere, worldwide. What does that tell you?

[walkman]

"I'm more interested in WHY it has changed and how to fix it."

I belive the consensus is that this is a google BUG, that's why. See comments of people not ranking in the top 50 for their website.com.

[a1call]

Hi Adam,
Try dmoz, yahoo and all major directories.

[Adam]

a1call,

dmoz and yahoo pages aren't ranking in the first 100 pages of my Google sector. Perhaps in your's?

[Liane]

Is there anyone here that is linked to hundreds of sites that are not linking back, and have not been affected by Allegra?

Yes. I have several hundred outbound links spread across my site which are not reciprocated. All links appear on map and photo pages which concern the area I am linking to.

I have had no penalties of any kind ... not yet anyway. I also see no reason why this should incur any penalties. They are all very relevant links to other sites in my slice of the world which my customers visit as they sail around the islands. Its all on the up and up. No tricks, and they are all direct links to the various sites.

<Added> I should mention that there are probably no more than 10 links out per page ... if that.

There is no "scraping" of text either. The links are all contained in (original copy) written paragraphs describing the various areas.

[edited by: Liane at 5:54 pm (utc) on Feb. 7, 2005]

[valeyard]

"I'm more interested in WHY it has changed and how to fix it."

I belive the consensus is that this is a google BUG, that's why. See comments of people not ranking in the top 50 for their website.com.

Agreed.

If anyone still doesn't believe Google is broken, have a look at this search:
<snip>

There are some decent sites at the top (none of which are anything to do with me - I'm not advertising here!).

But take a look what happens from the bottom of page 1 onwards.

[edited by: ciml at 8:14 pm (utc) on Feb. 7, 2005]
[edit reason] No keyphrases please. [/edit]

[Essex_boy]

well spotted! made me smile. Dont worry about alogo work around it, using free directorys links etc from other sites to drive traffic.

That way when the alogo favours you its great and when its not leaning inyour direction you have no real need to worry.