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The next iteration isn't going live though until next year (I believe), but it should help bring more eyeballs to MSN Search.
Good move.
I guess the Seattle PI got the jump on the ballyhooed official announcement today.
hehe, the dateline said, December 13th, even though it was still the twelfth on the West Coast and in Seattle.
I doubt it will make much impact to be honest - I definitely don't go to my MSN window with the intention of searching the web.
I've been using MSN Messenger 7 for a month or so now, and I hadn't really even noticed the search box...
Same here. Even Yahoo has it. No biggie.
remember folks...you heard it here first!
Thank you
and so it starts...
I predict that MS is the #1 search engine by mid 2007.
and 35% of searches will be preformed from MS products..
remember folks...you heard it here first!
Hopefully it won't take that long!
Die Google Die!
IMHO Google doesn't listen to webmasters nor do they seem to think much about the general public that utilizes their search engine anymore! Their full efforts are on adwords and adsense. Nothing more nothing less!Concentrate your efforts on your IPO Google and HASTA LA VISTA baby!
I am happy to see competion to end googles absolute power they had several years now.
adsense and adwords are cool though as MLHmptn said.
Die Google Die!
IMHO Google doesn't listen to webmasters nor do they seem to think much about the general public that utilizes their search engine anymore! Their full efforts are on adwords and adsense. Nothing more nothing less!
I doubt it will make much impact
I even removed all Google related search bars from my computers last week. It used to be default, along with the installed toolbar. Now, it's non-existant within our company.
Their PPC services yield way less ROI than Overture for many of the things that we place ads for, so I consider them useless these days.
Yahoo! is king again (I would have never thought that they'd yield more valid results than Google) - and MSN is going to be a close second until Longhorn is released, which will no doubt make them #1 when the integrate the MSN search into MSOffice, Windows, etc.
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"The Toolbar Suite team took some time out of their busy schedule last week and here they answer a ton of questions about the team and the product. Here the Silicon Valley team demonstrates the new MSN Toolbar Suite and answers Channel 9's questions."
MSN Needs to come up with something like Adsense.
I understand they plan to.
I understand they plan to.
Please elaborate.
Well I just searched some old AdSense messages and realize that it's simply been that many on AdSense have speculated that MSN would get into something that would compete with AdSense. They have been speculating on it for so long I thought it was really going to happen. But sadly it appears to only exist in the minds of some members of the AdSense forum.
Well, we can continue to hope that a big player will challenge google in this area. I'm happy with Adsense, but I think competition is good (especially for us).
Search is a different business. With office products, the more people that use them, the more valuable it is for the next person looking for an office suite to buy the same one as everyone else so they can essentially "join the community".
A pure search/advertising network doesn't work that way unless they can get the network effect going. Amazon's A9 or something like it may have more potential in the long run than the current mass market players, cause right now they are just search engines. They are brands and a brand can fall out of favor overnight. If search and commerce becomes a community that grows more valuable with each additional community member, the first company to build that may build a sustainable network with a true barrier to entry that can't be beaten with pure technology and good buzz/PR. Ebay was firt to build the critical mass auction site and no one has yet been able to provide a real challenge. We'll see if OSTK can make a dent.
MSFT makes a ton of its money from Office/Windows. What if Google came out with an office suite that resided on Google servers that could import MS Office files? Use the MSFT strategy and make it free to start - go for the throat, the heart of the MSFT revenue stream. You wouldn't have to store docs on your computer and you wouldn't have office taking up tons of space on your hard drive. No more lost files, easily access all your docs from anywhere even if you forget your laptop.
What if Google served as an ASP (affiliate style for the revenue) for most programs and instead of your desktop you could just login to Google, would you even need Windows anymore? Those "thin" PCs that Oracle predicted in the 90s might actually materialize and replace the loaded PC for business folks.
There is going to be an epic battle of the titans over the next few years that MSFT might not win. The only sure thing is that as more commerce moves online, the advertisers are going to foot more and more of the bill for this battle since there are only so many keyword slots available.
Google has money, they've got brilliant brains, great biz strategy so far & they're probably here to stay. Who knows what will happen to Yahoo?
I would like to see all the search egines put a filter on sites that utilize Google's adsense. Adsense is google spam thats not any different than banner exchanges of the past, but it comes with a healthy cost! Sure your making profits from it but what are you doing to small business? If your small business your cutting your own throat!
Think about the day when every click costs $5 or more because the big guys start paying that!? Will small business be able to stay alive? I think not!
Adsense followers : Support it as you will.
Adsense is google spam thats not any different than banner exchanges of the past
I have a true content site on a history topic. (since 98) It's what I thought adsense wanted. But my earnings have gone down in the last few months. I believe trash adsense sites are causing people to ignore adwords. They are also causing a lot of advertizers to turn off the content aspect.
Some competition from MSN might help stop this trend. I'd like to find a program that really accepts only quality sites. But it still needs to be broad reaching in the products it sells. Right now adsense delivers a good variety of ads for my topic. Simular programs don't have the ad pool needed. MSN might have the reputation and reach to attract advertizers in all topics.
MLHmptn
Think about the day when every click costs $5 or more because the big guys start paying that!? Will small business be able to stay alive? I think not!
The web is full of niches, and the age of captive audiences as we knew it is over, because the market is much for fragemented (or segmented).
Ex. Skaters in Boston, Halo gamers in India, Kia moders in Brooklyn
So I really don't think the big guys stand a chance.
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