Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.198.134.32

Forum Moderators: open

Message Too Old, No Replies

Mozilla/Firefox showing Popups

but how? and how to stop?

     
9:08 am on Sep 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Oct 22, 2002
posts:121
votes: 0


Recently some major sports news site gets my Firefox to open Popups without me clicking any stuff.

How do they do it? And how could one stop it?

Can I name the site as reference? Well, sportsline (don't spank me too much if this is wrong)

11:57 am on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Apr 15, 2004
posts:2047
votes: 0


I don't think they deserve a link from this site, to be honest.
Get hold of a pop-up blocker (or better, don't go back there!)
1:42 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Sept 4, 2003
posts:94
votes: 0


its not a problem for me...
1:55 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Preferred Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Apr 17, 2002
posts:601
votes: 0


No pop up for me either. Are you sure it is poping up in a mozilla window? Spyware normally still uses IE if you are using windows that is.
1:58 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

joined:Jan 27, 2003
posts:2534
votes: 0


I did get a popup clicking on a link on their pages, even with Firefox's popup blocking (and in a new window even though my firefox is set to always use tabs instead).

But there's so much javascript in their source I frankly don't have time right now to wade through it to find out which bit was responsible for the new window.

2:01 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from CA 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member encyclo is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:Aug 31, 2003
posts:9074
votes: 6


It is certainly not the site you mention which is serving the pop-up ads, so it must be some sort of scum/spyware that you've got there.
2:03 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

joined:Jan 27, 2003
posts:2534
votes: 0


>>It is certainly not the site you mention which is serving the pop-up ads, so it must be some sort of scum/spyware that you've got there.

It *is* that site - I managed to see it twice by deleting a cookie the site set so I only got one popup. Plus the popup that appears is displayed in a frameset from their domain- it isn't a spyware thing, it's a javascript that beats firefox's popup blocker thing ;)

(From the homepage I click on the 2nd 'related link' and this generates the popup)

2:07 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from CA 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member encyclo is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:Aug 31, 2003
posts:9074
votes: 6


it's a javascript that beats firefox's popup blocker thing ;)

But it doesn't beat mine (Firefox 0.9.3 on Linux). So what gives? You're on Windows, right? You haven't installed the Mozilla ActiveX plugin or anything?

2:11 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

joined:Jan 27, 2003
posts:2534
votes: 0


>>You haven't installed the Mozilla ActiveX plugin or anything?

Not likely ;)

It's the first popup I've seen in a *long* time, hence my curiosity. And you guessed right with windows (2k + 0.9.3).

2:40 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from US 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Aug 28, 2002
posts:994
votes: 2


Whoa...you're right. You do get a pop-up. That's the first pop-up I've seen get through the Firefox blocker.
2:53 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Mar 6, 2002
posts:742
votes: 0


I was just reading some news stories at Yahoo and got a pop up too. Went back with IE with my old pop up blocker and didn't get it.
3:00 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

joined:Jan 27, 2003
posts:2534
votes: 0


Hmm, this is very curious. I saved a local copy of a page from the site in question that generates a popup, and FF blocks it. I'm at a bit of a loss to work out why...
3:07 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member from CA 

WebmasterWorld Senior Member encyclo is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:Aug 31, 2003
posts:9074
votes: 6


From the homepage I click on the 2nd 'related link' and this generates the popup

OK, I'll let you off this time! I see it too. I thought you were getting it on the home page.

The link to the second page is a standard a href with no onclick or anything, so it must be in the source of the second page. Possibly an onmouseover event or something. I'd look more closely, but the page made my browser grind to a halt, so I couldn't get the source and I had to close the browser window.

3:12 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

joined:Jan 27, 2003
posts:2534
votes: 0


Whew, well I tracked the offending code linked from an iframe (the innocently named "blank.html" ;)) on the page, which was linked to *another* iframe containing javascript.

Strangely it seems to be pretty straightforward - window.open('','_blank','scrollbars=no,resizable=no,width=600,height=475');

Wouldn't have thought this would beat the FF popup blocker, unless there's something in there I've missed.

3:20 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Apr 18, 2003
posts:827
votes: 0


File a bug in bugzilla:

[bugzilla.mozilla.org...]

If you don't want to go to the trouble, sticky me the URL.

4:50 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Apr 18, 2003
posts:827
votes: 0


Thanks, its this bug:

[bugzilla.mozilla.org...]

And here's a bug with a list of sites:

[bugzilla.mozilla.org...]

11:14 pm on Sept 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Apr 20, 2004
posts:1477
votes: 0


edited because I see you've found the real culprit. :)
11:02 am on Sept 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

joined:Jan 27, 2003
posts:2534
votes: 0


Strangely, since I messed with this both my popup blocker and forcing into tabs stuff no longer works as expected. I'm getting new windows all over the place :(
11:54 am on Sept 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Oct 22, 2002
posts:121
votes: 0


Sorry to hear thta, but thanks Andy and all the rest.