Forum Moderators: open
So, here's the coup: I'm not certain which of the two sockets in the motherboard (asus a7v133) the cable (flat, wide one) goes in?
The black one nearest the edge or the blue next to it..
Also, does anyone know what to look for to reset the bios?
Many thanks and sorry for being vague, i wouldn't be in this mess if I knew what I was doing ;)
Nick
The motherboard should have at least two of them. I think these are called atapi drives or sockets. One is for a cd-rom/cd-rw and the other is for the Hard Drive. It doesn't matter which one you choose because the motherboard will figure out if it's a HD or CD-RW.
I've installed a couple of these before, as well as swapped between computers. I most recently installed a Seagate 40 Gig in July, so you know, I've done it before.
I don't recall having to mess with the bios- this is almost a plug and play deal. Except you have to image the drive or install the OS.
Here's a good PC Magazine tutorial [pcworld.com] (what I used).
[edited by: martinibuster at 2:58 pm (utc) on Sep. 12, 2003]
In the BIOS, the drive comes up no.4 as 'Other Atapi device' if that's any relevance ;-)
Nick
Normally you can put two drives,cd drives or a combination on either channel.
I used to have 2 drives and 2 cd drives with one of each on each channel. Each channel needs one drive set as master and one as slave - there should be jumpers on the back of each drive to do this, and usually a 'key' printed on the drive. Get that wrong and they go all wonky and/or bios doesn't recognise them.
they are both IDE channels
IDE0 and IDE1 is the blue one
IDE2 and IDE4 is the black one
it's make NO difference which one you plug it into.
BUT check the second drive to see what it is set for master / slave they are little jumpers usually on the end set it to slave.
Dave
Yep, sure do.
>get them wrong
Can you clarify that, how would I get them wrong, I'm almost certain I have (though looking at the manual I'm developing a sneaking suspicion that the 'hardware guy' got somthing wrong somewhere....)
<afterthought>Being a computer expert is much like being a web designer: any muppet can throw up a site and call themselves one...</afterthought>
Nick
BUT check the second drive to see what it is set for master / slave they are little jumpers usually on the end set it to slave.
>toggle
Ok, guys, 'splain it to me in childlike terms please. I've never messed with my hardware (oh er..) before... ;)
BTW --- Single drive, took the old one out..
Nick
On the drive itself there's usually a diagram showing what the settings are.
Dave
www.datadocktorn.nu/us_frag1.php :)
Tell me, before I make this guy wish I'D never been born, if he was setting it up to run with my old HD, would it have gone in one of the raid sokets?
Thanks for all the help guys, I'm not out of the woods yet but I'm satisfied I'm on the right track...
Nick
From the edge of the MB there is: Floppy connector, IDE 1(black), IDE 0(blue). Plug your HD in to the Blue one and set the HD to Master, using the jumpers on the drive. Then plug in your CD-ROM to the second IDE channel (black one) with another IDE cable and set it to master as well. Look at the back of the CD-ROM and it will say something like CS - MA - SL. You need to put the jumper vertically on the 2 pins under the MA. Plug the power into both drives and then turn the computer on and press DEL to get into the BIOS and change the boot sequence to Floppy - CD-ROM - IDE0 so you can boot from the CD-ROM.
Hope that helps.
DaveN stands up takes a bow and leaves the room ;)
Ok, couple of questions:
1. How do I manipulate the jumpers?
2. The 'startup' says 'onboard bios not loaded as no drives detected'? thoughts?
Nick
To reset the bios there should be 2 little solder points on the board and you short them out w/ a screwdriver. (no joke)
Pdf version of the manual:
[asus.com.tw...]
Will the bios detect the drives if they are not formatted? I figure something would show, it just would not boot.
If you are running ata 100 drives I think there is a specific plug that you should be in. Blue on the board, since it is primary, and then I BELIEVE it is the one closest to it, which should be grey(or is it the black one?) on the actual cord.
As far as the jumper settings go(back of drive- the little pins) you should be in MASTER or CABLE SELECT mode.
What type of drive are you installing? brand/model?
edit: first manul link did not work
I'm trying to install an st340015a (seagate barracuda).
I had a look at the manual and couldn*t find where those 'solder points' were?
Cheers!
Nick
look at page 30 of that pdf. it shows you how to put the jumpers on the HD.
Basically there is the IDE connector then the jumper pins then the power connector.
[asus.com...]
page 59, how to reset the password:
It is right next to the battery and labeled as: CLRTC
they are 2 solder points and you short them to reset the CMOS RTC(real time clock) I think this sets everything back to the default settings as well. Not sure if it undoes any flash bios upgrades.
That bloody muppet had it plugged into the raid socket
That's a perfectly normal thing to do and shows foresight on his part. Optical drives like CD/DVD cannot be plugged into the RAID socket, but hard disks can. Even if you are not using the RAID facilities ... plugging the main hard disk into the RAID socket on the motherboard leaves you two free IDE sockets, which as explained before will allow you to plug in upto 4 IDE devices, including a mixture of further hard disks and optical drives.
To keep things simple avoid the RAID. Identify the thin red line running down one side of your ribbon cable. This is "pin" 1 and needs to be aligned with pin 1 on the hard disk i.e. don't put the cable in upside down. Also, check that is aligned correctly at the motherboard end. Some IDE cables CAN go in upside down. Do the same with the cable that your CD drive is using. Once those two cables are plugged in and the CD/HD are getting power, put your PC on. It used to be the case that you had to set your main hard disk as master etc etc... not valid anymore so don't worry about master/slave settings.
When your PC boots keep hitting delete till you get into the CMOS screen. Browse through there. You'll have options to set which drive you are booting from etc. Get back if you still have a problem
Nick
2 solder points and you short them to reset the CMOS RTC(real time clock) I think this sets everything back to the default settings as well. Not sure if it undoes any flash bios upgrades
Just for the record - resetting the BIOS does not affect firmware upgrades like any flashing you may have done. All it does is take all the settings that the PC manufacturer originally did in the BIOS back to a default setting. This includes settings like RAM speeds, allocating IRQ to graphics card, enabling DMA, setting the sequence of drives to boot from, and in many cases EVEN turning off "Plug and Play" which will cause major problems and make your OS into a "Plug n Pray". The solder points are actually two little pins that normally have a little plastic jumper on them. You don't need to take a screwdriver to short it. Just removing and replacing the little plastic jumper (cap) resets the BIOS.
I have the drive (st340015a) plugged into the primary ide socket (on asus av7 133) and all is reasonably well.
BUT, when I boot, it says (after detecting /) "UltraDMA not installed as no drives present"
What!
Cheers guys..
Nick
John
Nick
