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They claim that I have been clicking on my own ads. Which I have not.
No recourse, just, <paraphrase>"We cannot reveal our algorithm, but we reviewed your account again and confirm that invalid clicks were generated with your account"</paraphrase>
Account closed, end of story, see ya'- next.
I have not clicked on any of my ads. I have emailed them several times and this is all I get above.
Has anyone else experienced this?
$250 isn't much, but it's a big deal when they take about 90 days to pay and then when you are about to get your first check they boot you.
How is it possible for them to confirm that I've been clicking on my ads when I haven't?
Thanks in advance for advice,
Rusty
[edited by: Jenstar at 4:43 pm (utc) on Feb. 11, 2004]
[edit reason] No email quotes as per TOS, thanks! [/edit]
#6 Prohibited Uses. You shall not, and shall not authorize or encourage any third party to: (i) generate fraudulent impressions of or fraudulent clicks on any Ad(s), including but not limited to through repeated manual clicks, the use of robots or other automated query tools and/or computer generated search requests, and/or the fraudulent use of other search engine optimization services and/or software
It does not say you can not click your own ad for research/testing... as long as you dont abuse it...
thankyou and good night los angeles..
love mojo
a big shout out to my man brett for backing me up...
goodnight
just a thought...
QV
... but don't start whining when you'll get the "Dreaded Email" ;-)
Simple.
Random click or not.
Goober
It does not say you can not click your own ad for research/testing...
Webmojo, do note what it says in the FAQ, which you have agreed to abide by when you signed up for AdSense.
These prohibited methods include but are not limited to: repeated manual clicks, using robots, automated clicking tools, or other deceptive software. Please note that clicking on your own ads for any reason is prohibited, to avoid potential inflation of advertiser costs. All clicks must be generated as the result of a user clicking on the ads. We therefore require AdSense publishers not to incite or provide any incentive for users to click on a Google ad. (bolding mine)
[google.com...]
Don't think it could be any clearer ;)
I seriously doubt, that nobody anywhere has gotten booted out of AdSense for occasionally clicking their own ad.
It is my site, and I have a right to see where it takes me and if in fact the links are working...no harm done...
I'm desparately afraid that this guy is not being sarcastic, that he actually believes what he's writing!
Please get it through your thick skull that to an advertiser who pays for clicks your so-called "research" is FRAUD, plain and simple. There IS harm done!
Advertisers do not sign up in order to pay you for checking that the links work, or so that you can verify where the links go. That's the job of the Adwords editorial staff, who do it without costing the advertiser any money.
As trillianjedi says:
Try posting that in the AdWords forum and check the reaction
It's not a no victim crime. There's somebody paying for it. The same people who click their Adsense ads would scream blue murder if they were paying for somebody else's fraud.
It's very well for someone who's not an Adsense publisher to pass comment on what Adsense publishers should be able to do. Foolhardy publishers who jump on such suggestions deserve to lose their accounts.
I doubt that nobody anywhere has gotten booted out of AdSense for occasionally clicking their own ad.
Yes, I agree with this. There is no reason to be paranoid because you have an ad every once in a while. But there is a difference between that and a deliberate campaign to click on your own ads for your own financial gain.
The more people who do this, the more likely Adwords advertisers are to opt out of content sites, meaning less money for all publishers.
I guess you're the big winner, if what you pasted is off the google site, then you guys are right, i am wrong...
In my defense though, my clicking was never to generate income for my site and was for research only... I was more passionate about getting my point across of not being a thief or commiting some type of fraud...
you would think google in all their glory would know what ip their publishers use and not count them as valid click thrus... they prob. do, and thats why I havnt been booted yet, or maybe im lucky, or maybe i'm on the list for upcoming boots this month...
thanks jen, sry google adwords peeps... no more clicking for me...
Have a place where you can put your IP and that IP will not get counted.
I agree, then it would prevent all these "ACK! I clicked an ad!" threads we see pop up every couple of weeks.
Premium publishers have this option, so hopefully it will be something that regular publishers get. And another person complained his clicks didn't show up in his account, so there is a good chance that there is some sort of program in place for static IP users where clicks are discounted.
Too bad he didn't state it about 50 messages ago.
Premium publishers have this option
I thought premium publisher got paid by the impression?
love mojo
Yah, Brett is stating the obvious here. Google should be smart enough to ignore clicks from your own IP address.
And maybe Google is smart enough. But regardless of whether Google is smart or stupid, clicking on your own ads is both a violation of Google's TOS and a fraudulent use of advertisers' money.
love mojo
"Help! My IP address changed." "I got a new computer." "I dialed in from home." "My ISP must have changed the block they use." "I forgot that I had purged my cookies." "The cookie must have gotten lost." "Norton must have blocked my cookie." "Why shouldn't I be able to click from wherever I happen to be?" etc. etc. etc. ad infinitum.
You can click ads on your own site.
...But you may get booted.
...And you're taking money out of the advertiser's pocket.
...And doing so hurts everyone involved with AdSense.
...And it's trivial to check ads without clicking them.
Do the right thing.
Do unto others as you'd have done to you.
As you make your bed, so must you lie in it.
"Help! My IP address changed." "I got a new computer." "I dialed in from home." "My ISP must have changed the block they use." "I forgot that I had purged my cookies." "The cookie must have gotten lost." "Norton must have blocked my cookie." "Why shouldn't I be able to click from wherever I happen to be?" etc. etc. etc. ad infinitum.
you are not a webmaster...
love mojo
I use comcast, the world's largest provider of internet services and I have dynamic IP address. Which means that ever single time I log in I get a new IP address.
That means that at any given time my dynamic IP address is being used and then given to someone else who uses it.
The point is, there are 2 crowds developing here. Google-Mind-Numbed Robots who are quoting every crossed t and dotted i in a policy that has no recourse.
Google says they detected fraud, I ask what kind of fraud, and they say, it's fraud goodbye.
I have carefully reviewed the TOS, and I have followed every single letter of it.
If you want to view the google ads on your page, simply hover, click R mouse, properties, copy & paste, and go view the website.
No need to click the ads.
There has to be some other explanation for why I was booted than my ads were clicked on. Sounds like that happens often and people aren't booted.
Google has made it clear they're not about to tell me what activity they found (so all of the above posts are speculation) because then it would let people know how to work around their detection devices.
Closest thing I can figure is that their fraud radar is set to maximum to protect the integrity of their Adsense network and earn them money and I'm a blip that's actually a whale swimming around and they just blasted what they thought was a nuclear sub out of the water.
Now, I'm like that whale that exploded in (asia somewhere) and I'm trying to get back to the OCEAN.
Has anyone, ever, successfully been re-instated? IF NOT, this discussion is over.
Other than for others to realize that the Adsense can be pulled from your feet at anytime (following the TOS to the letter or not).
Rusty
Has anyone, ever, successfully been re-instated? IF NOT, this discussion is over.
Yes, a member here has. But it was a compliance issue, if I remember correctly, and not a fraudulent click one.
I am not sure you can have your google add 2 times on one page.. please read TOS.
Regards
QV
If you don't like the ads then click on the "Ads by Google" link and complain.
I have carefully reviewed the TOS, and I have followed every single letter of it.
That's where you're mistaken, and perhaps why you're feeling let down by google.
TJ
How about actually reading the TOS and FAQ's? Thats the contract you agreed to.
