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Firstly,I want to congratulate everyone for being a member of this community and wish you the best of luck in your online ventures.
I am new to this forum,and would appreciate your input on a strategy I will be trying out in about 1 month.I will not ask "how can I become rich" sort of questions,but rather your opinion on the scenario I will be presenting:
I plan on :
*purchasing 100 domains,with URL's representing the keywords I will plan on targeting
*publishing simple,static websites,containing no more that 5 articles(gathered from free article resources websites)/10 pages on the keywords I will be choosing(I will aim at the not so popular ones,due to the fact that I will target a not so crowded market)
*having a section,on each site,with links to my other(let's say 99) websites
Basically,I will be publishing 100 simple websites containing free articles(modified where I consider necessary) on various themes.
Here are my questions:
1)With one google adsense account,can I have the ads displayd on a large number of websites(100)?
2)Do you think that I can earn around 0.1$/day for every site in my first month?If not,then how much do you think I will be earning?
3)Is having links to my other 99 websites on each site in compliance with the adsense TOS(I have read it and it appears ok,but I want to be 100% sure I am proceeding in a legitimate way)?
I am looking forward to your response.
Best regards
I'm as skeptical as some others that you have any real intention of doing this, but just in case I'll add this piece of advice: wait for the long term before drawing conclusions. Some sites get a temporary boost in the rankings when they first launch; others get buried in what is known as the "sandbox" for a long long time. Results from the first week or month are not indicative of future performance.
That's another way of saying, if this isn't a real business that you'll remain committed to even during the down periods, then you might as well just give up now because you're most likely destined for failure.
i think most of what's said on here has been sensible, and i am greatful for this thread because i WAS asking the "is one big sit better than lots of little ones" question.
One thing no-one has pointed out about your idea is that you say you plan to put 99 links one every page, yes? How the heck is that going to encourage your visitors to click on the ads?! I would say the LESS links the better. You'd be better off getting the rankings up by posting articles to article directories with a link back to your site and adding your URL into forum signatures than what what you are talking about.
Mark
One thing no-one has pointed out about your idea is that you say you plan to put 99 links one every page, yes?
Actually,no.
I was planning on having a section on each site called "affiliate websites",for example,where I will place a link to the other sites I own,so only one such page per site,not 99 links on each page of each website.
But it seems that would be considered a "link farm",thus against the TOS so I have abandoned that idea.
Anyway,I will not spend 1 dime on domains before I am 100% positive that I am in no way in violation on the TOS with the sites I will be publishing.I do not want to risk anything.
I'd say pick something manageable like 10 closely related subjects for 10 different sites and stick on or two links on your pages, then if people aren't interested in your adsense ads they might click on a link to another site of yours, and they might find an ad on that site they want to click on.
I'd say that is a more canny use of the multiple site idea. Eventually you may have so many sites that your latest one is in no way related to the first, but by using the chinese whispers idea, you will get people moving around your sites and making sure you get more money hopefully. Either that or give them no options to click anything but ads or the back button!
Either that or give them no options to click anything but ads or the back button!
Groan......
Why do visitors go to websites in the first place? This point seems to have completely escaped many in this thread. Is it:-
a) because that site has wall to wall really cool ads with the back button disabled
or
b) because they are actively seeking information and clicked on your site looking for specific information.
What is the effect of the visitor not findng the info they were looking for?
Is it:-
a) repeatedy coming back to click on your ads because they like them so much
or
b) click the back button without clicking ads.
What is the long term result of not pleasing visitors? Is it:-
a) having a very poor rating with smartpricing and getting virtually nothing per click - even from real advertisers
or
b) having a high rating with smart pricing, having a high and stable epc and loads of repeat visitors who WILL click on the ads?
I want to make a site that people will enjoy coming to, but at the same time, i'm in it for the money. It is a BUSINESS, not a hobby. So, i dunno how to play it myself really, but one thing i do know is that giving people tons of links that aren't ads to choose from is going to make CTR plummet, and that's not good.
Did I say anything about no content on my websites?
People clicking on "e-good-carpenter.com",for example,will find exactly that,carpenter tips,gathered from several free articles and with a personal touch added,in order to avoid "duplicate content".
Say a person finds "e-good-carpenter.com" by accident,on a free website directory,visits the site and finds carpenter tips,as the URL suggested.
Would that person be a satisfied visitor?
I use a tracker occasionally to look at what ads are clicked and a few other factors. One thing that surprised me was the fact that those who clicked on the ads came back. In the time I looked at this, ad clickers had the most page views and were most likely to be repeat visitors. Repeat visitors are worth more than many here give credit for.
Yes, you want people to click ads, but it's not as simple as providing them with a logical exit route. I personally feel that there is a certan amount of content that seems to generate the maximum clicks. It has to be informative, unique and what the visitor is there for, but not too much. My longer articles don't really work with adsense. You have to first and foremost get "Bum's on seats" and to do that you need quality content. You have to have relevant ads that are effectively the "Further information" section of the page. to maximise earnings from adsense you need to perform a balancing act, and content is a HUGE part of this. Something people here simply forget.
Would that person be a satisfied visitor?
yeah more than likely that would be a satisfied visitor if they found what they was searching for but that's not going to make much money by relying on traffic from free directories, it will help with the link building for your sites but free directories certainly would not drive bucket loads of visitors to view your sites
thanks for that. That was an interesting observation that i didn't fully appreciate. I don't think i'd ever resort to making a page so pointless that people just click off it cos they didn't get what they want. If it WAS that way then it's probably have so little content that the SEs wouldn't rank it anyway i imagine.
Mark
Even without duplicate content concerns, search engines are less impressed by self-generated link networks than they used to be. Why invest time and energy in a sunset strategy when the same resources could lay the foundation for something that could be productive in the longer term?
About content, a flaw in the OP's scheme that I didn't notice anyone comment on is that if he doesn't have the background to write knowledgably about a topic, neither will he have the expertise to judge quality in someone else's content, or edit it reliably (assuming he could get permission to do so). Free content works best as a shortcut to quality site-building when it falls within an area where the webmaster/editor already has some savvy.
I do not want to risk anything.
There is always risk. Perhaps you should scale back your plan to 5 or 10 sites. Then you can test it for a few months and won't have spent $1000+ for domains and hosting.
In case you haven't noticed, most people here believe you plan has major flaws and has a near zero chance for success. Google is constantly adjusting their algorithms to NOT include sites that are doing what you are planning. Even if you take existing articles and slightly change them, you still have basically the same information. Here is the map to success...
1.Make something new/original.
2.Make something that will bring people to your site.
3.Cover a topic that advertisers would want to advertise on. ie. Don't make a site praising nitrogen. Its 75% of the air and it is free. No one is making big money selling it.
4.Have patience. Playing games and trying to make the quick buck will likely have you back in a few months saying "I got booted from Adsense and don't know why."
5.The most important thing to remember...
doh, I forgot.
Here's the answer you want. Your plan is great. Go for it.
Now can we all move on?
