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Sudden increase of CPC recently?

My campaigns are full of inactive keywords.

         

fischermx

6:37 pm on Apr 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I didn't review my campaigns since last week, I remember a campaign with arround 1000 keyword in which I had about 150 "inactive for search".
Today I have 750 "inactive for search"!

Does anybody get any similar to this recently?

exmoorbeast

5:58 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No change for us here at the moment. Anyone else?

fischermx

6:07 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I was exactly to post about that, but I wasn't sure.
One of those crazy adgroups with 100 keywords and 100% full of $10.00 bids now shows like 40-50 keywords with bids ranging from $0.20 to $0.50, a little more reasonable (though they were $0.05 to $0.20 before).

Still I'm wating the explanation why a keywords with absolutely no advertisers in any country is asking a min bid of $10.00.

Israel

6:51 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I did see that someone from Google visited my site recently and they went no further than my homepage and must have missed all the quality content and never visited a landing page. If this is how the quality check works then the system is doomed to failure.

Atomic,

You've hit the nail on the head, I believe. I have many domains. One domain Adwords hates, no matter what I advertise. Another similar looking site rarely gets the wild min CPCs.

Just realized on the hated domain, since I use it for so many diverse products, the homepage has no sitemap, no links to anything else. I've been using it only for Adwords so I figured who'd ever go to the homepage.

The other domains tend to have sitemaps and links to quality content. In fact I don't always keep them updated so oftentimes the landing pages won't be located from the sitemaps. Nonetheless Adwords doesn't overcharge on those.

Therefore, I'd say this answers Fischermx's question too. The so-called "quality check" is automated and starts at your home page, not the landing page in the ad. I'd venture to guess it arrives at a general "site" score based on the full range of the site.

Otherwise, how come when I'd put up an ad in a new folder on the "hated domain", Adwords knew right away to overcharge by 1000 percent? The landing pages weren't being checked. I think the assessments are done based on what can be found from the homepage. It would tie up Google's servers tremendously to visit your landing page every time you added a keyword, etc.

A one-time or ideally a periodic visit is made to the site and you are judged based on that forever after.

I could never figure out why that domain always fared so badly no matter what the content. In fact, over time I've moved a lot of content to other domains and away went the $10.00 CPCs.

Of course, this was after making sure I had no HTML errors, every image had a descriptive ALT tag, keywords and variants were included, etc. on the "hated domain". All in a vain attempt to improve my "quality score".

Atomic, does your home page link to all your quality landing pages?

Israel

ddogg

7:21 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just so you guys know, this is not a bug or a glitch. Google is purposely raising your minimum bids to extremely high levels so that you stop bidding on those keywords. This is Google basically stopping you from advertising on certain keywords without flatout disapproving your ads. It is somewhat sneaky. It is sort of how the minimum overall bid is now technically 1 cent, but realistically you aren't going to be able to bid 1 cent on most keywords and show up in the results.

Those of us that have seen campaigns basically die yesterday have unacceptable landing pages in the eyes of Google. Most likely due to too high of an ad-to-content ratio (i.e. more AdSense or affiliate ads on the page than content, or more than Google wants to see). I am going to try to increase my content to ad ratio and see if I can get un-marked for death. Of course then I will probably become unprofitable and have to stop bidding anyway...

Armi

7:26 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I can confirm that Google doesn´t check the landing page, but the main page/the whole domain. Pages with poor content on the main page have no these big problems.

Israel

7:28 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well, I hope they adjust all of us soon. They're not making much money from me today.

There is certainly a random or at least misguided algo governing the bid requirements.

I've been going through some adgroups to do a "damage assessment" and found one where by accident, I had included the most irrelevant, vague keywords possible. They had no bearing on the product advertised. Their low bids were untouched and the keywords were showing in high positions.

Now this was all due to a poor copy/paste job. If these keywords were truly being judged on "quality" with regard to where they land you, I should have been charged $10.00 apiece for these. Any human evaluator would have said "You want to use these keywords to advertise that?" and charged accordingly.

In fact, they were so general in nature, they surely deserved a $10.00 bid, but Google is showing them in the top 5 positions for 25 cents. Something is out of whack there!

At least searchers had the sense not to click on them....

Israel

jim2003

7:33 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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made a new ad today to my domains homepage. the keyword i put in was [my domain.com] . It wants $10 per click.

arrgggggghhhhhh

Atomic

8:11 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Atomic, does your home page link to all your quality landing pages?

Every page on my site has navigation and an easy, easy way out. Each page has a link back home and to my old school, hand crafted site map. Each page is rich with original content.

But while my homepage may not go directly to each landing page, my second-level category pages which are in my navigation all link to my landing pages. There is no funny business here.

Oh yeah, and bidding on my own domain is now going to cost me a freaking dollar when no one else is bidding on it? I can't stand it when the Google information ministers come out to tell us everything is fine while missles and bombs are falling.

Do we look that stupid?

etr06

9:30 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I'm presuming many of you have submitted your frustrations to the AdWords team. Have any of you received replies yet? I too, am experiencing this issue on a huge scale.

If you accept their minimum bid, does anyone know if the actual CPC comes out that high?

I can't imagine Google would purposefully make such a drastic change overnight - it would seem an inopportune time for them considering the concurrent ramp-up of MSN's competitive product (which has substantial traffic on the same keywords at minimum CPCs similar to what levels were at Google before the hike in price). I would gather MSN is loving this - if these prices stick, everyone is going to leave Google and move over to MSN.

Some of us are discussing the same issue in a thread over here: [tinyurl.com...]

Abigail

10:56 pm on Apr 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"If you accept their minimum bid, does anyone know if the actual CPC comes out that high?"

And that would be a big YES, at least in my case.

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